Who is Elihu?

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The Lord said his heart was perfect and that was proven when David repented as a result of Nathan's rebuke.
In order to discern whether David's heart is perfect then you must known what the one must do to be perfect before the LORD. I will give you some credibility if you at least known what the LORD's word tells man he must do to be perfect before him.

I noticed in your previous post that you had answered the questions that Ehilu had asked Job but didn't answer the one that the LORD had asked the one without knowledge regarding where he was when the LORD asked "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding- when I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it? Job had said where he was so that is one reason to consider that the question was directed to Elihu.

The Lord never said David was sinless, any insinuation to that effect is stupid.
You are the one claiming the LORD said David had a perfect heart.

While it is inferred by implication in 1 Sam 13:14 that "the LORD hath sought him a man after his own heart" was referring unto David, yet seeking and obtaining are two different things. "Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." 1 Kings 15:5

But I am not arguing whether or not David had a perfect heart or not since IMO that is a question that can only be answered by his creator, but I don't think that David ever stop seeking.
Again just like Job. Nathan the Prophet rebuked David, just like Elihu.
It is written the LORD sent Narhan to David. Nathan didn't rebuke David; he told David what the LORD had sent him to tell David since his heart couldn't perceive. So yes, when David heard the LORD's word he immediately identified with it and confess his error.

Elihu gave Job his opinion. "My words shall be of the uprightness of my heart:" Job 33:3

Elihu tells Job "Surely thou hast spoken in mine hearing, and I have heard the voice of thy words, saying, I am clean without transgression, I am innocent; neither is there iniquity in me."Job 33:8-9


Wonder what Elihu's opinion would be of someone who said the following"
20 The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.
21 For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God.
22 For all his judgments were before me, and I did not put away his statutes from me.
23 I was also upright before him, and I kept myself from mine iniquity.
24 Therefore hath the LORD recompensed me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his eyesight.
Ps 18:20-26
 
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Not sure what your point is. Are you saying that a righteous man cannot turn from his righteousness?
If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and sins, it is written he shall surely die.
Do you believe it is alright for a man to condemn God so that he may be righteous?
If it wasn't your LORD that was afflicting Job because he was righteous, then was it Elihu's God that was afflicting Job for being self-righteous. No, condemning a righteous man for his righteousness is in effect condemning the God of righteousness.
 

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Correct. The reason that point was made was to highlight a clear example of affirmation being given to a character in this story. There are 4 explicit references for Job, and there are zero explicit references for Elihu. We see praise for Job. We do not see praise for Elihu.
a similar argument can be made; we see explicit criticism from God of Job, of Satan, and of Job's three friends.
we se no criticism whatsoever in the Bible of Elihu: we only see Elihu criticized in later human commentary about the account.

do we take the approach of evil-until-proven-good, or good-until proven evil, when we meet someone in the Biblical text who speaks like a prophet, praising the name of God and proclaiming things peculiarly similar to what God Himself says?


you and i take different approaches to silence in this text :)
 

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If it wasn't your LORD that was afflicting Job because he was righteous, then was it Elihu's God that was afflicting Job for being self-righteous.
no.

it was God -- Elihu's God and Job's God and the only true God -- allowing Satan to afflict Job in order to prove Job's righteousness before all the angels. why?

Job's friends: God is afflicting Job because Job has sinned. ((incorrect))
Elihu: sometimes God may afflict a man not because of sin but in order to teach him something. ((correct))
UnoiAmarah: ((your comment here))
 

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was it Elihu's God that was afflicting Job for being self-righteous

Give me neither poverty nor riches—
Feed me with the food allotted to me;
Lest I be full and deny You,
And say, “Who is the Lord?”
Or lest I be poor and steal,
And profane the name of my God.
(Proverbs 30:8-9)​