hey does anyone speak or know hebrew? I was just in the shower asking God about the baptism of the spirit and if I could recieve it and then I had the thought of speaking in tongues pop in my head and I heard the word ashalaba or asalaba something like that is this an actual word or was my mind just imagining things?
How do you know you have the holy spirit
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Blain, even after Magenta clarified that cessationists believe only the miracle gifts have ceased,
you continue to talk as though they think all gifts have ceased, so please adjust your statements.
Also, you seem to want to walk by proof rather than by faith, when Jesus said people would know
his disciples by their love (John 13:35) as well as by their faith in Him as Messiah and Lord (1John 4:7-5:5).
Faith in God/Jesus that produces the fruit of the HS (Gal. 5:22-23) is the gift that never ceases (1Cor. 13).
you continue to talk as though they think all gifts have ceased, so please adjust your statements.
Also, you seem to want to walk by proof rather than by faith, when Jesus said people would know
his disciples by their love (John 13:35) as well as by their faith in Him as Messiah and Lord (1John 4:7-5:5).
Faith in God/Jesus that produces the fruit of the HS (Gal. 5:22-23) is the gift that never ceases (1Cor. 13).
Paul clearly taught that there is only one baptism (Eph. 4:5), which is when a sinner repents and becomes a believer (1Cor. 12:13),
and remember that the Lord revealed Himself to Elijah-not as wind or quake or fire, but as a gentle whisper (1Kings 19:11-13). So
again, you ought to be satisfied with walking by faith (2Cor. 5:7).
and remember that the Lord revealed Himself to Elijah-not as wind or quake or fire, but as a gentle whisper (1Kings 19:11-13). So
again, you ought to be satisfied with walking by faith (2Cor. 5:7).
It isn't that I am not walking by faith but there is something inside me that yearns for a much deeper bond with God and I have encountered people who just by standing close to them are just brimming with life like a powerful aura so I know there is a whole other level with God we can have and if he permits it I want this with him
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It's a common sign, but its not guaranteed, the Apostle Paul says, "Not all have the gift of healing, not all speak in tongues, not all interpret." (1 Corinthians 12:30). He goes on to say The Holy Spirit gives some all, some many, some few of the gifts as He decides, and its not a marker of you did something wrong.
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A sign? no, I don't want a sign I want the real thing. There is a powerful connection we can have with God that exceeds what we know of right now I have seen it I have tasted it and I want it. Like I kid you not being absolutely brimming with the spirit with his life his love everything to a level that it just pours and overflows out of you
To the point where Jesus himself will just appear and eat and drink with you he has done it to me before, to the point where no scripture is hidden from you no truth escapes you and the entity of God is far more real to you than life itself.
To the point where Jesus himself will just appear and eat and drink with you he has done it to me before, to the point where no scripture is hidden from you no truth escapes you and the entity of God is far more real to you than life itself.
Emotionalism? do you not know that hunger? that thirst for God? do you not yearn and crave for more and more of him? do you think he would forbid a child of his to hunger after him? to always be seeking a closer more intimate relationship with him? are we to not seek him daily? do we not hunger and thirst?
Do you know why Jesus appeared to me in person? it was because I invited him to eat with me left him a plate of food and he literally came and ate with me would you not treasure something like this?
if we lose that hunger for him and stop seeking a deeper love and bond with him then we miss out on so much we could have with him, I am sorry if you have lost that first love you once had or if you just don't have that kind of hunger and deep desire for that intimacy we can have with him but I have tasted and seen I have recieved and been given and there is no going back for me
Do you know why Jesus appeared to me in person? it was because I invited him to eat with me left him a plate of food and he literally came and ate with me would you not treasure something like this?
if we lose that hunger for him and stop seeking a deeper love and bond with him then we miss out on so much we could have with him, I am sorry if you have lost that first love you once had or if you just don't have that kind of hunger and deep desire for that intimacy we can have with him but I have tasted and seen I have recieved and been given and there is no going back for me
Flesh itself is in the way and to me this be why I am to take all thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Does it matter if tongues or gifts are no more or not?
God's word of love and mercy for us all goes forward forever for us to get and love all also.
In the old it was said an eye for an eye. Now it is feed your enemy. Which "I" can't do if I am harmed by another, yet can in the rise Son, if can't, then I might not be born new yet by God and and yet still on my way to see and believe and see getting given the Faith of God for me to stand in trust, no matter what, you think? I see after a long journey here on earth with suffering and shame teaching me new in love to all thanks to God's love first
Loving all is a gift from God to do willingly, not me the old person, that is truth
God's word of love and mercy for us all goes forward forever for us to get and love all also.
In the old it was said an eye for an eye. Now it is feed your enemy. Which "I" can't do if I am harmed by another, yet can in the rise Son, if can't, then I might not be born new yet by God and and yet still on my way to see and believe and see getting given the Faith of God for me to stand in trust, no matter what, you think? I see after a long journey here on earth with suffering and shame teaching me new in love to all thanks to God's love first
Loving all is a gift from God to do willingly, not me the old person, that is truth
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Romans 8 verses 15-16 You did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
“The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit.”
Exactly right.
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Good topic, great questions.
I’m going to suggest something that might sound a little bit counter-intuitive, but this is my experience.
How one knows is very personal. Without wanting to invoke a cliche, when you know, you know. It’s like — how does one know when they type on here, that their words go anywhere? You know because you get feedback. You communicate. You receive a response.
That answers some of your other questions as well— can you feel him? Yes. Do you communicate? Yes. Do you receive divine experiences? Yes.
As for the rest— how do you know? How do you know it’s not your imagination, or you talking to yourself? This is the counter-intuitive part.
Conflict.
As @Magenta revealed from scripture— the Spirit testifies with our spirit…. For there are two living in one house. @PaulThomson pointed to it beautifully. We are the house— the Spirit we are given co-habitats us. Living in is and through us, with our own spirit. The question is- “ Who is the master of the house?” Who is lord? Is the Christ in us a guest, a visitor, a companion, a friend, counselor, trusted advisor?—- or is that Spirit actually Lord? Have we made him Lord? Do we trust and obey, or simply hear him out now and then when we get in a pinch.
See, I know the spirit in me. It can be selfish and spiteful and deceitful, full of lust and greed and malice towards enemies. But Christ calls me to set my spiritual nature aside with respect to all of these things and to follow him. To make my spirit secondary and to use my free will to set aside my “feelings” and work to emulate those things that I’m prompted by him to do instead. Love my enemies, seek the good, do unto others as I would rather they do unto me. Forgive, serve… and so on.
It is this conflict within in me— this constant battle that reveals the presence of one that is not me. One that is truly good, pure and holy all the time, not some of the time— when my spirit yields.
I’m going to suggest something that might sound a little bit counter-intuitive, but this is my experience.
How one knows is very personal. Without wanting to invoke a cliche, when you know, you know. It’s like — how does one know when they type on here, that their words go anywhere? You know because you get feedback. You communicate. You receive a response.
That answers some of your other questions as well— can you feel him? Yes. Do you communicate? Yes. Do you receive divine experiences? Yes.
As for the rest— how do you know? How do you know it’s not your imagination, or you talking to yourself? This is the counter-intuitive part.
Conflict.
As @Magenta revealed from scripture— the Spirit testifies with our spirit…. For there are two living in one house. @PaulThomson pointed to it beautifully. We are the house— the Spirit we are given co-habitats us. Living in is and through us, with our own spirit. The question is- “ Who is the master of the house?” Who is lord? Is the Christ in us a guest, a visitor, a companion, a friend, counselor, trusted advisor?—- or is that Spirit actually Lord? Have we made him Lord? Do we trust and obey, or simply hear him out now and then when we get in a pinch.
See, I know the spirit in me. It can be selfish and spiteful and deceitful, full of lust and greed and malice towards enemies. But Christ calls me to set my spiritual nature aside with respect to all of these things and to follow him. To make my spirit secondary and to use my free will to set aside my “feelings” and work to emulate those things that I’m prompted by him to do instead. Love my enemies, seek the good, do unto others as I would rather they do unto me. Forgive, serve… and so on.
It is this conflict within in me— this constant battle that reveals the presence of one that is not me. One that is truly good, pure and holy all the time, not some of the time— when my spirit yields.
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Jesus said "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness" (Matt. 5:6), not after emotional highs.
Yes, I know the hunger and thirst for God, and I know that Jesus said such will be satisfied as we learn every word
that comes from the mouth of God, (Matt. 4:4).
I used to crave the type of experience you seek, but as I learned GW I realized
that was not the normative way God's HS relates to saints (2Tim. 3:15-17).
IOW, experiencing miracles is rare, which is why they are miraculous,
so do not expect or even want yours to reoccur, be frequent, or happen continually.
Paul did not lose the first love he once had just because he did not go back to Damascus,
and we should follow his example and teachings. In fact, probably most Christians do not have
a “Damascus road experience”, so you should consider yourself blessed by the one occasion.
The Holy Scriptures teach that all Christians should experience the miraculous fullness of Christ (Eph. 3:14-19)
or become a Christ-like person (Eph. 4:1-2, 2Thes. 1:11-12). You ARE reading/learning the Scriptures I post?
Yes, I know the hunger and thirst for God, and I know that Jesus said such will be satisfied as we learn every word
that comes from the mouth of God, (Matt. 4:4).
I used to crave the type of experience you seek, but as I learned GW I realized
that was not the normative way God's HS relates to saints (2Tim. 3:15-17).
IOW, experiencing miracles is rare, which is why they are miraculous,
so do not expect or even want yours to reoccur, be frequent, or happen continually.
Paul did not lose the first love he once had just because he did not go back to Damascus,
and we should follow his example and teachings. In fact, probably most Christians do not have
a “Damascus road experience”, so you should consider yourself blessed by the one occasion.
The Holy Scriptures teach that all Christians should experience the miraculous fullness of Christ (Eph. 3:14-19)
or become a Christ-like person (Eph. 4:1-2, 2Thes. 1:11-12). You ARE reading/learning the Scriptures I post?