Understanding God’s election

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Rufus

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Have you decided not to persevere with participating in the study of election on the Hermeneutics thread?
I didn't know that by selectively choosing what threads I participate involved the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. :rolleyes:
 
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When I have enough time to do some work I may work on those verses I started.
In the meantime, we hope you will comment on the discussion to help guide our thinking regarding the verses being introduced
and how the couplets can be harmonized. Whatever work on the verses you have time to do will be icing on the cake (hopefully chocolate with boiled white icing :^)
 

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Are you having argument withdrawals?
The FWers in this thread, evidently, can't come up with a biblical answer to the question I presented in my 12, 596. They clearly have withdrew themselves from tackling tough questions. Cowards...everyone of them!
 
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The FWers in this thread, evidently, can't come up with a biblical answer to the question I presented in my 12, 596. They clearly have withdrew themselves from tackling tough questions. Cowards...everyone of them!
No, we are obeying Paul's instruction in Titus 3:9-11.
 

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No, we are obeying Paul's instruction in Titus 3:9-11.
I thought this group's translation fit your response well:

CJB Titus3:9-11 But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, quarrels and fights about the Torah; because they are worthless and futile. 10 Warn a divisive person once, then a second time; and after that, have nothing more to do with him. 11 You may be sure that such a person has been perverted and is sinning: he stands self-condemned.

I also thought this was insightful:

Are you having argument withdrawals?
 

Rufus

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QUOTE="GWH, post: 5503947, member: 334064"]No, we are obeying Paul's instruction in Titus 3:9-11. [/QUOTE]

Translate: We FWers don't have the first clue on what God's revealed purpose is for Christ's death.
 

Rufus

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I thought this group's translation fit your response well:

CJB Titus3:9-11 But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, quarrels and fights about the Torah; because they are worthless and futile. 10 Warn a divisive person once, then a second time; and after that, have nothing more to do with him. 11 You may be sure that such a person has been perverted and is sinning: he stands self-condemned.

I also thought this was insightful:
You thought, you thought, you thought. What a pity that all your "thoughts" do nothing to clear the cobwebs out of your attic. Don't you know that it's also written:

Titus 1:9
9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

NIV

And, don't you know you're supposed to have an answer for every man who ask for the reason for the hope that is in you (1Pet 3:15)?
 

studier

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You thought, you thought, you thought. What a pity that all your "thoughts" do nothing to clear the cobwebs out of your attic. Don't you know that it's also written:

Titus 1:9
9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

NIV

And, don't you know you're supposed to have an answer for every man who ask for the reason for the hope that is in you (1Pet 3:15)?
Yes, and I'm refreshed by posters who apply Titus1:9 to refuting your erroneous tradition and Titus3:9-11 to your "stupid controversies" though 3:10 could be better applied by some of us.
 

Genez

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You thought, you thought, you thought. What a pity that all your "thoughts" do nothing to clear the cobwebs out of your attic. Don't you know that it's also written:

Titus 1:9
9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

NIV

And, don't you know you're supposed to have an answer for every man who ask for the reason for the hope that is in you (1Pet 3:15)?
Bitter much?

"See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God, and that
no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many."

Get over it!
Your choice for your Bible college was a loser's place.


Stop blaming others for your bad choices.
We do not think like you... and by your example.... we are glad of it.


You want to make yourself think that we are all just as stupid as you were.

There are good places....

You come here to vent your bitterness and to prove to yourself, we are just as much a loser as you were.

:coffee::coffee::coffee:
 

Rufus

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Bitter much?

"See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God, and that
no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many."

Get over it!
Your choice for your Bible college was a loser's place.


Stop blaming others for your bad choices.
We do not think like you... and by your example.... we are glad of it.


You want to make yourself think that we are all just as stupid as you were.

There are good places....

You come here to vent your bitterness and to prove to yourself, we are just as much a loser as you were.

:coffee::coffee::coffee:
As usual you miss the point altogether. It's not about conforming your thinking to mine, but rather conforming your thinking to God's who does not think like we mere mortals do. And the proof is in the eating of the pudding because no FWer here can answer my question I asked in 12, 596 which was: What was God's BIBLICAL (operative term) purpose for sending his Son to die for "all men"? Whaddya say, Einstein....do you think you have a clue? :rolleyes:
 
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Good Morning, Y'all. Hope everyone had a good night's sleep and that everyone's mind is sharp as a tack, most especially you FW lovers; for I have a question to ask you. Ready? Here it is: You FWers claim that Christ died for all men w/o exception. So, please tell me for what biblical purpose did Christ die for "all" men? Can't wait to hear your replies. :coffee:
John 3:16.