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ZNP

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I agree with you on the essence of the above post.
The problem of automation goes way back, probably when humans invented the wheel or fire on demand.
I just thought of another example.

As a teacher there are certain things that AI can do much better than a teacher. I used to spend about 125 hours each summer programming a interactive Elearning for my class using Adobe products. With AI I could have done so much more in so much less time.

Second I used to evaluate my students results using statistical analysis to figure out how to tweek and adjust it. Again, I could have done a better and more thorough job with AI.

Third, I wanted my program to be individualized, so that if a student understood a concept the program moved on and if they didn't it continued to teach it. It is more complicated than that because you have to take into account short term and long term memory, frustration, boredom, etc. But the bottom line is there was a tremendous amount of improvement that could have been made in this area which I did not have the time to program but probably would have been the very next things on the list. I could have done this with AI.

Then I liked to use an algorithm I designed to predict how a student would do on the final exam so I could recommend the most important things for them to study in the last two weeks. However, as good as my approach was it was a sledge hammer, whereas with AI you could get granular, instead of focusing on the topics the kids needed most help with drill down to the concepts they had struggled with the most.

There were other things I wanted to do, but with AI I could have done much more than I did in much less time. Even so this course was demonstrably more effective than any other science course in NYC (our kids showed the most improvement of all NYC students three years running).

So here is my idea, in any subject being taught in school if you have 100 teachers there are 20 who are really not effective at all. If a school has five teachers teaching a subject you could get rid of one of them. However, we each had 150 students, so getting rid of one teacher would increase the number of students we each had by around 40! That is a lot of work, but with AI, you can eliminate most of the work. During the school year the work is almost all grading and conferencing with students and parents. All of my lesson plans were done before the year started. Everything I just described about the Elearning suite automated the grading and made it more effective. AI could also print out a report for each student describing in detail their progress which would have been awesome in conferences with parents and students and administrators. AI could also make the phone calls. I usually made about 100 phone calls to parents each week.

My point is by automating many of the tasks of teachers you can easily handle more students, and the results will be much more effective than they are today.
 

ZNP

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I am sure you have evidence of this. :rolleyes:
You probably are not familiar with stone soup, but I read a book once about this recipe where you can make soup and all you need is water and a stone. There are plenty of stones in Gaza.
 

HeIsHere

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You probably are not familiar with stone soup, but I read a book once about this recipe where you can make soup and all you need is water and a stone. There are plenty of stones in Gaza.
Yes I know the story well.
Sad application.
 

ZNP

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Yes I know the story well.
Sad application.
How about this application then. When you see that your governments platform is the annihilation of your neighbor, if you see them putting their terrorist headquarters underneath your kids elementary school and underneath the hospital your wife works at, then it is time to leave and have nothing to do with those murderers because if you don't leave you will suffer the same fate.
 

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I just thought of another example.

As a teacher there are certain things that AI can do much better than a teacher. I used to spend about 125 hours each summer programming a interactive Elearning for my class using Adobe products. With AI I could have done so much more in so much less time.

Second I used to evaluate my students results using statistical analysis to figure out how to tweek and adjust it. Again, I could have done a better and more thorough job with AI.

Third, I wanted my program to be individualized, so that if a student understood a concept the program moved on and if they didn't it continued to teach it. It is more complicated than that because you have to take into account short term and long term memory, frustration, boredom, etc. But the bottom line is there was a tremendous amount of improvement that could have been made in this area which I did not have the time to program but probably would have been the very next things on the list. I could have done this with AI.

Then I liked to use an algorithm I designed to predict how a student would do on the final exam so I could recommend the most important things for them to study in the last two weeks. However, as good as my approach was it was a sledge hammer, whereas with AI you could get granular, instead of focusing on the topics the kids needed most help with drill down to the concepts they had struggled with the most.

There were other things I wanted to do, but with AI I could have done much more than I did in much less time. Even so this course was demonstrably more effective than any other science course in NYC (our kids showed the most improvement of all NYC students three years running).

So here is my idea, in any subject being taught in school if you have 100 teachers there are 20 who are really not effective at all. If a school has five teachers teaching a subject you could get rid of one of them. However, we each had 150 students, so getting rid of one teacher would increase the number of students we each had by around 40! That is a lot of work, but with AI, you can eliminate most of the work. During the school year the work is almost all grading and conferencing with students and parents. All of my lesson plans were done before the year started. Everything I just described about the Elearning suite automated the grading and made it more effective. AI could also print out a report for each student describing in detail their progress which would have been awesome in conferences with parents and students and administrators. AI could also make the phone calls. I usually made about 100 phone calls to parents each week.

My point is by automating many of the tasks of teachers you can easily handle more students, and the results will be much more effective than they are today.
I agree again.
But the problems in liberal states like mine are not about KNOWING something but about insanity.
A teacher does not know how to use tools to improve a process or to convey a teaching. A teacher is simply unqualified in a lot of cases.
For example at my kid's high school one teacher (a female) said to the entire class "If you were my doctors, i would have died from my cancer".
When my kids told me this my first reaction to them is "this teacher should be fired". But to convey a long story short, my kids and i and my wife know that during life you will see a lot of craziness and we can choose to hide from it or face it. I personally have seen quite a lot being born in another country too.
But this is why i choose to be in a liberal state. There are many great things that i like here but there's a lot of confusion too.
This is also why i take my kids at the Harvard area sometimes to let them know that 'this is the epicenter of insanity. Face it, learn from it, deal with it and don't get affected by it. Stand as your own man with God first. That is what's important'
 

Eli1

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How about this application then. When you see that your governments platform is the annihilation of your neighbor, if you see them putting their terrorist headquarters underneath your kids elementary school and underneath the hospital your wife works at, then it is time to leave and have nothing to do with those murderers because if you don't leave you will suffer the same fate.
Her problem (whether real or not) as you mentioned in another post, is that she doesn't like anything USA does.
If Canada was an empire, she'd be like "What's your problem with Canada protecting Israel?".
We're dealing with Tier 1 memes here.
 

HeIsHere

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How about this application then. When you see that your governments platform is the annihilation of your neighbor, if you see them putting their terrorist headquarters underneath your kids elementary school and underneath the hospital your wife works at, then it is time to leave and have nothing to do with those murderers because if you don't leave you will suffer the same fate.
John Nelson Darby and C.I. Scofield are proud.
 
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I believe the comments in this thread displays the difference between politicians, troll accounts and the military.

As being part of the armed forces we would take down said helicopter in the blink of an eye if we could.

Since we haven’t, said helicopter hasn’t been on our radar, or not at least in a position where it could be taken down.

Believe me, it would have been taken down given the chance.
 

ZNP

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This is why you don't judge before the time.

All Hell Breaks Loose When White House Official Confirms Elizabeth Warren Faked Biden’s Signature


We have had several prophetic dreams over the last few years indicating that Joe Biden was not president and that Elizabeth Warren was. I have no way to confirm or deny, but I could recognize as many others could that something about Joe Biden being president seemed very fake.

This is also a good example for why many don't understand how to discern a false prophet. Let's assume Elizabeth Warren was running the show and that Biden was completely incompetent. Do you think that only God and God's Holy angels know that? Just because someone knows this doesn't in any way confirm or debunk the idea that they are a real prophet of God.

People need to reread what they think the Old Testament way is to discern a false prophet.

God said if they predict something and it doesn't happen you don't need to fear them.

You see if someone tells you Elizabeth Warren is running the show behind the scenes and not Biden and later it turns out to be true, well then that proves this person has inside information. It could be from God, it could be from Satan or it could be a psy op, etc. But whatever it is, tread carefully. On the other hand if someone mocked and scoffed at this and it turns out to be true, that person you don't need to fear, they are simply a useful idiot.

No, the test is not whether or not it comes true. That is a stupid test on many levels. The test is whether or not they lead you to Worship God or if they are leading you to worship an idol. The Antichrist will do this, doing amazing things, predicting things that come true, etc. But the reason is so that people will follow him and not the Lord Jesus. That is the proof of a false prophet.
 

ZNP

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This is why you don't judge before the time.

All Hell Breaks Loose When White House Official Confirms Elizabeth Warren Faked Biden’s Signature


We have had several prophetic dreams over the last few years indicating that Joe Biden was not president and that Elizabeth Warren was. I have no way to confirm or deny, but I could recognize as many others could that something about Joe Biden being president seemed very fake.

This is also a good example for why many don't understand how to discern a false prophet. Let's assume Elizabeth Warren was running the show and that Biden was completely incompetent. Do you think that only God and God's Holy angels know that? Just because someone knows this doesn't in any way confirm or debunk the idea that they are a real prophet of God.

People need to reread what they think the Old Testament way is to discern a false prophet.

God said if they predict something and it doesn't happen you don't need to fear them.

You see if someone tells you Elizabeth Warren is running the show behind the scenes and not Biden and later it turns out to be true, well then that proves this person has inside information. It could be from God, it could be from Satan or it could be a psy op, etc. But whatever it is, tread carefully. On the other hand if someone mocked and scoffed at this and it turns out to be true, that person you don't need to fear, they are simply a useful idiot.

No, the test is not whether or not it comes true. That is a stupid test on many levels. The test is whether or not they lead you to Worship God or if they are leading you to worship an idol. The Antichrist will do this, doing amazing things, predicting things that come true, etc. But the reason is so that people will follow him and not the Lord Jesus. That is the proof of a false prophet.
The video is great! Elizabeth Warren is asked a question where the guy says 'you said Joe Biden was sharp as a tack up until last July' she corrects him saying "I said I hadn't seen decline!' Can you imagine! If Biden was incompetent for the entire 4 years that could be a true statement. The way these people lie is so despicable.

Now think about it, if she was telling the truth that she had not seen decline in the four years it corroborates that Biden was not competent for his entire presidency and she might have been the one who was acting as president.
 

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I believe the comments in this thread displays the difference between politicians, troll accounts and the military.

As being part of the armed forces we would take down said helicopter in the blink of an eye if we could.

Since we haven’t, said helicopter hasn’t been on our radar, or not at least in a position where it could be taken down.

Believe me, it would have been taken down given the chance.
Balloons get a pass?
 

Kroogz

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I agree again.
But the problems in liberal states like mine are not about KNOWING something but about insanity.
A teacher does not know how to use tools to improve a process or to convey a teaching. A teacher is simply unqualified in a lot of cases.
For example at my kid's high school one teacher (a female) said to the entire class "If you were my doctors, i would have died from my cancer".
When my kids told me this my first reaction to them is "this teacher should be fired". But to convey a long story short, my kids and i and my wife know that during life you will see a lot of craziness and we can choose to hide from it or face it. I personally have seen quite a lot being born in another country too.
But this is why i choose to be in a liberal state. There are many great things that i like here but there's a lot of confusion too.
This is also why i take my kids at the Harvard area sometimes to let them know that 'this is the epicenter of insanity. Face it, learn from it, deal with it and don't get affected by it. Stand as your own man with God first. That is what's important'
We still have sanity believe it or not. We live in Hall MT and my Kids go to Drummond MT for school. 300 or so population in Drummond, Hall is even smaller.

Ranch Kids. Construction kids. Down to earth kids......and teachers. But we still see pockets of this woke stuff here.

But Honestly, my wife and I wouldn't home school. That little school is still conservative, God fearing and integrity based.

But P-burg(1000 population) is 10 miles away, and the woke purple hairs have moved there for the ski hill. That school is WRECKED.

These schools are 25 miles apart and both were excellent. But the purple hair breasted dudes wrecked P-burg.
 

Eli1

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We still have sanity believe it or not. We live in Hall MT and my Kids go to Drummond MT for school. 300 or so population in Drummond, Hall is even smaller.

Ranch Kids. Construction kids. Down to earth kids......and teachers. But we still see pockets of this woke stuff here.

But Honestly, my wife and I wouldn't home school. That little school is still conservative, God fearing and integrity based.

But P-burg(1000 population) is 10 miles away, and the woke purple hairs have moved there for the ski hill. That school is WRECKED.

These schools are 25 miles apart and both were excellent. But the purple hair breasted dudes wrecked P-burg.
The woke virus is everywhere. I was shocked to hear that the woke virus had even infiltrated schools in Serbia via USAID by confusing the education system there. I was shocked to hear that because that's a conservative area but i also know that the politicians there like to double dip and don't care about consequences.

Rising kids today is tough. It's a delicate balance. I live in an area with 20,000 people and this is usually a 'conservative' town about 10 miles out of Boston. But this place is not immune to stupidity and this is where i teach my kids to face things. I also tell them a lot of stories about my childhood when i was their age, to give them a perspective so they don't get too stressed out during their teen years. Growing up as a teen today, is tough. It really is. The amount of emotional attacks that these kids have to deal with today is unbelievable.
They have a good character thanks to God and they do realize to forgive a lot of things and move on.
They told me that they 'laughed off' the comment from the teacher who made the class feel guilty and i was happy to hear that.

I also don't consider home schooling as a choice. Neither does my wife. But i realize that it works for a lot of people so that's great! More power to them.
Besides many reasons for not homeschooling, i simply think that there's a difference between theory and practice.
As Mike Tyson eloquently said : "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face". :LOL:
So that's why i put them in the thick of it with supervision so they can see reality, hear it, face it, learn from it and become emotionally wiser.
 

Kroogz

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The woke virus is everywhere. I was shocked to hear that the woke virus had even infiltrated schools in Serbia via USAID by confusing the education system there. I was shocked to hear that because that's a conservative area but i also know that the politicians there like to double dip and don't care about consequences.

Rising kids today is tough. It's a delicate balance. I live in an area with 20,000 people and this is usually a 'conservative' town about 10 miles out of Boston. But this place is not immune to stupidity and this is where i teach my kids to face things. I also tell them a lot of stories about my childhood when i was their age, to give them a perspective so they don't get too stressed out during their teen years. Growing up as a teen today, is tough. It really is. The amount of emotional attacks that these kids have to deal with today is unbelievable.
They have a good character thanks to God and they do realize to forgive a lot of things and move on.
They told me that they 'laughed off' the comment from the teacher who made the class feel guilty and i was happy to hear that.

I also don't consider home schooling as a choice. Neither does my wife. But i realize that it works for a lot of people so that's great! More power to them.
Besides many reasons for not homeschooling, i simply think that there's a difference between theory and practice.
As Mike Tyson eloquently said : "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face". :LOL:
So that's why i put them in the thick of it with supervision so they can see reality, hear it, face it, learn from it and become emotionally wiser.
100% buddy. I would plagiarize your post if I were a Biden....oh wait.
 

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Russia's glory is not about regaining land it is about its status on the world stage.

As for the rest when you actual state some facts, perhaps starting with broken promises after "tear down this wall" Bill Clinton's and his policies towards Russia maybe then there will be some substance to your response.

Yeltsin told Clinton personally at Helsinki in March 1997:
“Our position has not changed. It remains a mistake for NATO to move eastward. But I need to take steps to alleviate the negative consequences of this for Russia. I am prepared to enter into an agreement with NATO, not because I want to but because it is a forced step. There is no other solution for today.”


National Security Archive
When has NATO taken one action against Russia? The opposite, NATO has allowed its forces to atrophy while Russia rearmed. Russia could have used its oil and gas revenue to be a blessing to its people and raise the standard of living to one of the highest in the world. Instead, it enriched corrupt oligarchs, increased its military capability and bullied near neighbours.

Those are facts. That Putin wants to restore the USSR is a fact - he himself has said so. His actions also make it clear that he intends to make it happen by force. It won't happen because vast amounts of money intended for the military have been siphoned off by corrupt officials. That is also fact.
 

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President Trump gave Vladimir Putin a hard deadline to prove he’s serious about ending the Ukraine war — as the Kremlin revealed Thursday the Russian leader has no plans to pow wow with his US counterpart.

“We’re going to find out whether or not he’s tapping us along or not, and if he is, we’ll respond a little bit differently, but it will take about a week and a half to two weeks,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office Wednesday.

Asked whether he believed Putin wanted to end the war, Trump said, “I can’t tell you that, but I’ll let you know in about two weeks.”
 

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A top United States military general warned Thursday that terror groups in Africa are ramping up their ability to conduct attacks in the U.S.

Gen. Michael Langley, the four-star Marine General who leads U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), said the Sahel region of the continent is now the "flashpoint of prolonged conflict and growing instability. It is the epicenter of terrorism on the globe."

Several terror groups have expanded drastically in the last three years. Al-Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM, is three times the size it was in 2022, he said, and has spread across Mali, Burkina Faso, and parts of Niger, which the U.S. military pulled out of last year.