The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

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BillG

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Believe, repent, get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of our sins and pray for JESUS to fill you with the Holy Ghost. John 3:5, Acts 2:38.
Do you have to get baptised every time you sin?
If you sin and don't get batised again then your sins have not rid of (by the way to say getting rid of your sins is abbhorante, our sins were paid for on the cross and we cannot get rid of them)
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yeah, it seems some have gone this route: not dunked in water = not saved. No speaking in tongues = no Holy Spirit = not saved.
They can get in line with the Version other than King James = not saved group.
I don’t think acknowledging the doctrine of baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of sins is anything other than acknowledging the doctrine God gave to believers for remission of sins .

“Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:37-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think it comes down to either accepting the doctrine that’s there or telling people why it isn’t the right doctrine and they shouldn’t believe it .

why would anyone hear about being baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins which is Gods promise in Christ Jesus , who believes the gospel about him shedding his blood for remission of sins and then reject that part of the doctrine as of that part isn’t true as well ?

the terminoloy in scriptire like this

“For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:5-7, 9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

is based upon being baptized into Christ who died for our sins

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s just like communion Christians read the doctrine like this

“For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭11:23-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

abut then we explain why “communion with the body and blood of Christ Doesn’t mean anything it’s just a ritual “ or say things like “ communion doesn’t save anyone “ we’re supposed to learn about these doctrines and believe what they taught that’s the value of it

communion for example should be thought of as it’s taught then we understand it’s value and importance ots the same with baptism

“ For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.””

awe shouldnt then reason why we’re already saved and communion doesn’t apply tonus or why baptism is now irrelevant makes no sense
 
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Do you have to get baptised every time you sin?
If you sin and don't get batised again then your sins have not rid of (by the way to say getting rid of your sins is abbhorante, our sins were paid for on the cross and we cannot get rid of them)
Well in Acts 2:38 and 22:16 is clear that when we are bapitzed in JESUS name we get rid of our sins.

After we have done that then we need to repent and confess them to JESUS.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Without being reborn JESUS donsn't even here us.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
 

Cameron143

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Should be fulfilled?

Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

Looks like "TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS"
That's not what your original post said.
 

lrs68

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I don't see how when a person goes under the water and the words coming out of there mouth is " in the name of the father, the son and the Holy Ghost" is the same as in JESUS name.

Why are we told to do everything in JESUS name only?

John 14:13-14
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

We held responsibe for EVERY word that comes out of our mouth!

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Our words are important, and GOD's rules are HIS rules.
If the Disciples knew that Matthew 28:19 meant same as Acts 2:38 then why can't people today believe the same thing?

It's not like it's rocket science here..
 

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The Holy Spirit is the MEANS whereby we are empowered to obey: 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if BY THE SPIRIT you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For all who are LED BY THE SPIRIT of God are sons of God.…(Romans 8:13-14)

Matthew 7 verse 13 plus Romans 8 verse 13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live
 

BillG

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Believe, repent, get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of our sins and pray for the Holy Ghost. John 3:5, Acts 2:38
Get rid of your sins. Please don't say that it is crap.
Our sins are forgiven not got rid off.
Anyway I was baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit therefore I am not saved
 

BillG

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Well in Acts 2:38 and 22:16 is clear that when we are bapitzed in JESUS name we get rid of our sins.

After we have done that then we need to repent and confess them to JESUS.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Without being reborn JESUS donsn't even here us.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
Cop out
You believe your sins need to get rid off in order to be saved.
Saved by grace through faith is alien to you and your cohorts.
 

Lamar

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The Holy Spirit is the MEANS whereby we are empowered to obey:
13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if BY THE SPIRIT you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For all who are LED BY THE SPIRIT of God are sons of God.…(Romans 8:13-14)
Agreed.

This is something that many overlook, the "if you live according to the flesh" is the choice of mankind.

The "if" in verse 13 is the key. If we live (our choice) according to the flesh, we will die.

but if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live

And this is the choice and hope of God's creation (His image) not his fate.

"For all who are led by the spirit of God are sons of God"

Praise God that all mankind has been given the freedom to choose to be led by His spirit.
 

BillG

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Well in Acts 2:38 and 22:16 is clear that when we are bapitzed in JESUS name we get rid of our sins.

After we have done that then we need to repent and confess them to JESUS.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Without being reborn JESUS donsn't even here us.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
Are you willing to tell me I am not saved because I was not baptised in the name of Jesus and don't speak in tongues?
 
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If the Disciples knew that Matthew 28:19 meant same as Acts 2:38 then why can't people today believe the same thing?

It's not like it's rocket science here..
JESUS disciples knew to baptize "in the name of" the father the son and the Holy Ghost. Which as we can tell since they baptized in JESUS name. I agree just obey it's not hard.
 
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Cop out
You believe your sins need to get rid off in order to be saved.
Saved by grace through faith is alien to you and your cohorts.
So back up your words, show me how to be saved WITHOUT getting rid of our sins.

Prove JESUS wrong in John 3:5 and Peter in Acts 2:38.
 

Pilgrimshope

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By inference they do say that baptism saves.
If one is not baptised in the name of Jesus only then their sins are not remmised which means are not forgiven.
If they are not remmised or forgiveness applied then one is not saved.
None of them have the guts to say it.

Also no tongues = evidence of not being saved, which I have been told in the past.
“If one is not baptised in the name of Jesus only then their sins are not remmised which means are not forgiven.”

look wt it this way like Paul was teaching in his letters about what baptism means

“And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism,

wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

should we believe this and acknowledge he’s talking about baptism into Christ or not ? Or

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

….knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.

knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-4, 6-7, 9-11‬ ‭

We can learn what it means and let it be true or reject it and explain why it’s not true and needed or there’s other ways and other names

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is who said this

“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;”

We shouldn’t hear this as “ you’ll be damned unless you get baptized in Jesus name “ we should learn what’s really there about it

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Instead or hearing “ you must follow the rule and do this meaningless thing called baptism … we simply should learn what the Bible teaches about being baptized into the name of Christ Jesus and brother when one says only that’s very accurate there’s only one name under heaven that offers salvation

That’s why we do everything in his name from prayer to baptism to communion being done in remembrance of him

without the name Jesus no one came be saved or have thier sins remitted

all that being said God isn’t looking for technicalities so he can exclude anyone . Baotism is just a blessing and gift from God which any believer who hears what it means and believes it is going to act and want to get baptized . No one should is they don’t believe what’s taught about it it won’t mean anything without hearing and believing the doctrine for it but lots of doctine ties to it

you know how we say “ we died to the law “ that’s from a teaching of Paul about baptism into death with Jesus in Roman’s 6-7. Or how we say “ I died and Christ lives in me “ also reference to dyong with Jesus in baptism like Colossians 2 explains

If we refuse to believe what they are teaching I can see making arguments that baptism isnt part of it and remission of sins has nothing to do with baptism in Jesus name ect but if we begin to hear what they are teaching and accept it that we actually have a lot still we can learn them baotism becomes a very important part of doctrine that intertwined with so much of what’s taught regarding Jesus death and resurrection in our behalf

We tend to cut the things God said to do out of the equation thinking that’s how faith works but it’s not . Bekieving what he said ow where faith comes from and he said alot through his apostles about baptism in Jesus name

there’s really no foundation anywhere to make an argument against baptism in his name for remission of sins in my opinion but everything that teaches us about it in detail