The Reason Believers Are ABANDONING Churches NOW

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You raise an important point about the disillusionment many are experiencing—not just within the LDS Church, but also in broader evangelical circles. It’s true that access to historical documents and unfiltered information via the internet has made it much harder for religious institutions to control narratives or suppress inconvenient facts. In the case of the LDS Church, many members have felt betrayed upon learning about aspects of Joseph Smith’s history or early church practices that were not openly discussed or were even denied by church leaders in the past.

However, I’d caution against assuming that the only possible response to this kind of disillusionment is atheism. While some do take that path, others find new spiritual homes in more transparent or less dogmatic traditions. Some reinterpret their previous faith in more metaphorical or symbolic terms. Others find personal meaning outside institutional religion entirely, but without abandoning a sense of the divine or spiritual.

Regarding evangelicals, I think Baucham and others highlight a real crisis: a loss of depth, doctrinal clarity, or community relevance. But again, not all those leaving are abandoning faith entirely—some are seeking a more authentic or less politicized expression of Christianity. There’s a deep hunger for integrity and truth, and I think that’s what’s driving much of this shift.

In any case, the changes we’re witnessing suggest that people are no longer willing to accept spiritual claims on authority alone. They want honesty, coherence, and something that can stand up to scrutiny. That’s not necessarily a bad thing—it could be the beginning of a more mature and honest spiritual conversation.



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I have to wonder why anyone, including and perhaps especially someone like Voddie, calls Mormons "true believers."

And then to say there is no alternative but to become an atheist after realizing LDS are a cult? That's a non sequitur.
Amen when i found out my former religion was false it did not cause me to become an Atheist.. It was my thirst to find out more about God and the LORD Jesus that lead me to the Truth and knowledge that revealed the lies..

But having said that yes a lot of people when they discover their church is false do end up going through a time of unbelief ( Atheism ) but some of them after a time will seek God again and find Him..
 

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I can understand why people become disillusioned by their church / denomination / Church community / church hierarchy.. Because lets face it,, People are people with all the faultiness that that fact implies..

But i get the gut feeling that many of those people who end up drifting to Atheism because of bad experiences / relationships with church goers never based their Faith on a direct relationship with the lord Jesus..

That's why i will always encourage people who have been raised up in a particular church to get into the Bible and read it for yourself.. Don't live your spiritual life thought other human beings because sadly human beings can and often do let you down.. Seek to stand directly on the ROCK of the LORD Jesus and no amount of failures of other human beings will cause your faith to fail..
 
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The Reason Believers Are ABANDONING Churches NOW

Because their is mostly fruitless Preaching -----Ministers today mostly are in Ministry by their own calling ---not the calling of God -----

They are in their Natural state ----trying to Preach Spiritual Messages and they can't cause they do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit ----who is the only one who can give a True Minister --Priest etc the Spiritual Rhema word behind the Logos word ----

Go to the Churches today and Listen to what is being Preached by the Clergy ----any True Christian who knows their Scriptures well can tell if what is being Preached is truth or a lie -----and not many Clergy today are Preaching Truth ----cause they have Not The Truth in Them ---Satan is still their god ----

The Clergy today are preaching some half truths --which is a lie ----but mostly their Preaching is to Please the people not God ----they just Preach the fluffy stuff and Sugarcoat the Scripture --and or twist the Scripture to suit their own agenda ----sending their flocks straight to Hell ----

True Christians are fed up with the False ---Fluffy ----Sugarcoated --Deceiving Preaching that is going on today -----and True Christians are right to abandon the False Prophets and Preaching in their Churches today ---

The mockery of God's word in a lot of Churches today is disgraceful in my view -----very difficult to find a Church that has a true Christian with the indwelling Holy Spirit as its Pastor today ---

Anyone can go to a Seminary School and become A Minister no need to have Jesus as your Lord and Saviour ---

Gretta Vosper is a perfect example ---the United Church in Canada allowed her to remain Preaching in their Church when she came out while Preaching her Sunday Sermon as an atheists -and she said there are many atheists preaching in Churches who were Ordained ---

Satan is alive and well in a lot of Churches today --FOLKS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretta_Vosper

Margaret Ann "Gretta" Vosper (born 1958) is an ordained minister of the United Church of Canada who is a self-professed atheist.

In 2001, she told her congregation that she was a non-theist – although she believed in God as a concept, she no longer believed in God as a supernatural being who intervened in the affairs of humanity.[2] Although she expected to be fired, the United Church instead settled with her. Regular attendance in her congregation declined from 150 to 40, especially after the Lord's Prayer was removed from the liturgy in 2003.[3]

During her "non-theist" phase, Vosper was supported by leaders of the United Church. In 2011, Mardi Tindal, at the time United Church moderator, told a Toronto newspaper, "I celebrate Gretta and others like her who cause us to think more deeply about the nature of our faith. What Gretta has done has ignited a fresh conversation and invigorated the discussion."

I say -----how desperate is that --the united Church Supporting and Celebration Satan in their Church preaching Satan's agenda ----and this is not the only Church doing this -----Folks

I say Run Forest Run --- clear out and abandon any Church that is not Preaching ---Teaching Real Truth --know your Scriptures well and have good Discernment skills ----

Better off to stay home and be reading the real Truth daily and asking the Holy Spirit to guide into getting the Rhema word from the Logos word ------and that will be the Real Spiritual Interpretation of what the Scripture message is saying ---

Abandonment of False and Deceiving Prophets in Churches today is the right Reason for True Christians in my view -----

Know who is Preaching ---Satan or God ----

 

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The reason most people leave churches is because they were never converted. They said a prayer, made a profession perhaps. They were probably told they were saved for having done so. But this is a man-centered salvation that focuses on the actions of individuals, and not the actions of the Almighty.
Salvation occurs not when men engage with God, but when God engages with men.
 

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This is a problem with an open door, all welcome policy. I prefer the way the Brethren does things. They have a meeting for enquirers where the gospel is preached. Then there is a break followed by a meeting of believers. If someone accepts Christ in the first meeting, they are welcomed in the meeting of the church. It's not foolproof, but it's better than the alternative.

In many countries, persecution ensures that only believers meet together. The West does not have that problem as yet.

Another reason people leave is being disillusioned. Church life is little like we see in Acts or 1 Corinthians 14. Some believers are treated unfairly and unjustly. If we got back to God's way of doing church, I believe there would be fewer people coming for wrong reasons.