Am I correct with my understanding of this? Faith in Jesus alone = salvation

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Salvation is a Free Gift from God but the road to Salvation is not Free! Even Jesus Himself said that few will make it through the narrow gate and Jesus was / is God in the Living flesh and blood!
 
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Which would include that he is the Son of God? This is all that I can gather from a reading of John 3:14-18 (KJV) when reading it honestly and not trying to bend words into it. What I am struck by is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and to a smaller extent Romans 3:21-26 and Romans 10:9, which seem to put a different emphasis on salvation. In 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the gospel seems to be the object of belief, that one is saved by believing the gospel, which I suppose might not be what Paul is trying to communicate. In Romans 3:25 it seems to be saying that salvation comes by faith in Jesus' blood when read a certain way, though, this verse and surrounding verses can be read another way to be completely in line with how I read John 3. In Romans 10:9 in the KJV it says that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. This makes sense too considering John 3 since if you believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead you would believe in Jesus, along with confessing him with your mouth (I cannot read these words the way they are put forth in the NIV and ESV, "that if you confess with your mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved", they don't read like that to me, though I am not saying that that is not what they mean, and I understand they are translating from the Greek), though I don't understand why the "goal post" is moved here from belief in Jesus to something else, though the preceding verses seem to necessitate the language.

The solace in this is that all these issues can be reconciled in that none of these verses can contradict the point of view that belief in Jesus alone is what constitutes salvation, i.e. there is no problem. It is just disconcerting reading these things when I am not entirely sure what constitutes salvation myself, though I lean towards the view that it is belief in Jesus alone, because I don't see how John 3 can be read any other way. I could use some major help in understanding the truth in this. What does constitute salvation? When answering this question please address the things I've written. And please no posts from gotquestions or copy and pastes from other websites unless you have read those materials and agree with what they're saying, but if you do why not put it into your own words? I don't like the regurgitation of materials on the internet and the standard it sets for people to not understand things themselves.

On the topic of gotquestions, they seem to be in line with the belief that it is faith in Jesus' blood that constitutes salvation, though, like I wrote, when I read John 3, I don't see how that is the case.

When responding to me please be patient, I am sincerely trying to understand.
What you are experiencing is the truth that God's one requirement for salvation
can be expressed in various ways that are summarized by the word "faith",
so you will need to employ the semantic/hermeneutic gift of "both-and" logic,
which means being able to harmonize Scripture or see synonyms and essential similarities,
like describing different facets of one diamond or understanding anatomy by adding one system at a time.

For a systematic and rather complete consideration of the doctrine of salvation/soteriology,
please see Lesson 2 (The Christian Creed) of our website: <truthseekersfellowship.com>

LIC, GWH
 
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What you are experiencing is the truth that God's one requirement for salvation
can be expressed in various ways that are summarized by the word "faith",
so you will need to employ the semantic/hermeneutic gift of "both-and" logic,
which means being able to harmonize Scripture or see synonyms and essential similarities,
like describing different facets of one diamond or understanding anatomy by adding one system at a time.

For a systematic and rather complete consideration of the doctrine of salvation/soteriology,
please see Lesson 2 (The Christian Creed) of our website: <truthseekersfellowship.com>

LIC, GWH

One has physically act upon what Jesus had said until they are able to get the Father to reveal Himself!

James 2:17 > "Faith without action is useless"

The only thing that involves sacrifice on one's behalf that Jesus mentioned was to give to the poor and needy. Jesus sacrificed his life both physically and symbolically for all the sins of humanity therefor all people need to sacrifice for one another in order to make it to the Father! This is also validated in Romans (written by Paul the Apostle) where one will be judged based on their pursuit of Righteousness and Good Works instead of their sins. Why? Jesus already paid for the sins of humanity therefor people will be judged by how treat one another by their pursuits of Righteousness and Good Works!

No one ever claimed that they made it to the Father just by claiming that they were "Saved!" Everything has to match the Bible 100% and to match Scripture exactly one is required to go through Jesus to get to the Father, correct? Salvation is the Free but the path that leads to that Salvation not Free!

Jesus would have said this exactly but instead Jesus said that few will make it through the narrow gate (Mathew 7:13 ~14) and Jesus was / is God in the living flesh and blood according to the Book of John. This would mean that one would be required to physically do something to get to the Father in order to become "Saved." The only thing that Jesus really asked of His followers that involved physical sacrifice was to give to the poor and needy!
 
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One has physically act upon what Jesus had said until they are able to get the Father to reveal Himself!

James 2:17 > "Faith without action is useless"

The only thing that involves sacrifice on one's behalf that Jesus mentioned was to give to the poor and needy. Jesus sacrificed his life both physically and symbolically for all the sins of humanity therefor all people need to sacrifice for one another in order to make it to the Father! This is also validated in Romans (written by Paul the Apostle) where one will be judged based on their pursuit of Righteousness and Good Works instead of their sins. Why? Jesus already paid for the sins of humanity therefor people will be judged by how treat one another by their pursuits of Righteousness and Good Works!

No one ever claimed that they made it to the Father just by claiming that they were "Saved!" Everything has to match the Bible 100% and to match Scripture exactly one is required to go through Jesus to get to the Father, correct? Salvation is the Free but the path that leads to that Salvation not Free!

Jesus would have said this exactly but instead Jesus said that few will make it through the narrow gate (Mathew 7:13 ~14) and Jesus was / is God in the living flesh and blood according to the Book of John. This would mean that one would be required to physically do something to get to the Father in order to become "Saved." The only thing that Jesus really asked of His followers that involved physical sacrifice was to give to the poor and needy!
Yes, action/work/effort is a layer that complements the skeletal foundation of faith (Jam. 2:18-22).
Yes, good works includes helping the poor (Matt. 19:21, cf. Eph. 4:28).
Yes, love for one another may be manifested by sacrifice, even of one's own life (John 15:13, Rom. 5:7-8).
Yes, judgment includes works (per Rom. 2:6-11).
Yes, Jesus paid the price for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:21-25).
Yes, claims to have saving belief in Jesus as Lord may be insincere (Matt. 7:21).
No, one does not need to understand Scripture perfectly in order to be saved,
but rather a sinner needs to understand God's requirement for salvation sufficiently (John 16:12-13).
Yes, God's grace is free, but the path of sanctification may include struggle and suffering (2Cor. 11:23-28).
Yes, everyone is required to to go through Jesus, but those without the Gospel are saved by faith
in God as revealed (Rom. 1:20, 2:15, Gen. 9:12-13, 12:7, 18:1, 20:3, 22:11, Acts 9:3-5, etc.).
Yes, few may be saved (Matt. 7:13-14), but that is not God's fault (Matt. 13:14-15).
Yes, the evidence of faith in Jesus as Lord is serving him with one's body (Rom. 6:13, 12:1, 1Cor. 6:20).
 

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Personally, with a conversation like this, I like to try and strip it back to a few simple fundamental truths, rather than going down the analytical deep dive on many different bible verses route.
  1. We are saved by grace and grace alone, our acts don't even come into it.
  2. We can choose to accept or reject our salvation
  3. If we accept, we should have a real relationship with God where we daily read the word, pray, and wait on Him
Everything else flows from that and brings us to a deeper understanding of God. If we allow the Holy Spirit to guide us daily, putting God at the center of our lives, then we'll start to see the fruits of the spirit. This is a conscious daily choice we make. Do we do that distracting thing the enemy is trying to use to make us complacent towards God, or do we pick up the bible and spent time with our Lord. For me, making the right choice daily is how to keep me grounded, and really claim my salvation.