Revolution in Iran
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"God in fact gave all the races their lands too and God made every single race too. These are all part of God's covenants, that's why you can't just do away with a convenant of God"
Clearly this is the case.
"What they want to do is rewrite history and change the rules of reality, but they won't be able to do it, they'll only get themselves cursed."
Yup. Scary man.
When you confront people with the fact that Gods covenant to Abraham's seed must and will be inevitably fulfilled, and is in fact in process of being fulfilled in real time, and consequently these same people enter into the "freakout and denial zone" and begin to rail against ethnic Jews and despise both them and Gods plan for their redemption......
Well, that is some big wampum trouble brewing. For them.
Duck and cover man.....
So we'll go round the circle again. Do the Jews have a right to have a homeland and to defend it?
Of course, same as any people.
In 1948, the isreal state already had some land lot that settled by UN. If they just stay there and not invade into other people s land, everyone will be happy.
The people of that region need something that allows equal rights regardless of religion or race.
"Israel", "Palestine", the name does not matter.
"Israel" does not have the right to kill and steal from others or to declare them to be "Amalek".
Religious extremist who wish to reenact the Old Testament need to give up their game.
If I could press a button that would offend the sensitivities of a million of them, yet save one child,
God judge me if I hesitate.
So you are willfully, intentionally denying and or defying the unilateral eternal land grant covenanted to Abraham?
Asking for a friend.....
As Jesus said, your father is not Abraham, your father is the devil.
Please bring this debate to Jesus!
Please bring this debate to Jesus!
Maybe your god is the UN, but I can tell you with complete confidence that the UN is not telling the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob where the land grant boundaries are, nor are they giving any orders as regards the maintenance of His covenants.
So you say that there exist antagonistic nations who are coveting the land of Israel, and are intent on stealing it via murder?
Yes, to this I agree. See the Six-Day War (June 5–10, 1967) and the Yom Kippur War (October 6–25, 1973) for example.
The major interstate wars against Israel
| Conflict | Main opposing states / forces | What happened |
|---|---|---|
| 1947–49 War / Israel’s War of Independence | Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, plus local Arab forces | Immediately after Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948, armies from five Arab states invaded. This was the foundational existential war of modern Israel. |
| Suez / Sinai War — 1956 | Egypt, with Israel operating alongside Britain and France | Egypt’s Nasser had nationalized the Suez Canal and the Sinai frontier had become increasingly unstable. Israel entered Sinai, defeated Egyptian forces there, but international pressure—especially from the United States and Soviet Union—forced withdrawal. |
| Six-Day War — June 1967 | Egypt, Jordan, Syria; Iraqi and other Arab support | Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran, expelled UN peacekeepers from Sinai, and massed forces. Israel launched the opening air strike and defeated the surrounding armies rapidly, taking Sinai, Gaza, the West Bank including eastern Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. |
| War of Attrition — 1967–70 | Egypt primarily, with Soviet support | Not a single conventional invasion, but a sustained artillery, air, and commando war along the Suez Canal intended to bleed Israel after 1967. Israel faced Egyptian forces directly, while Soviet personnel and equipment increasingly assisted Egypt. |
| Yom Kippur War — October 1973 | Egypt and Syria, with wider Arab support | Egypt attacked across the Suez Canal while Syria attacked the Golan Heights on Yom Kippur. Israel was badly surprised and initially under extreme pressure, but mobilized, pushed Syrian forces back, crossed the canal, and encircled Egypt’s Third Army. |
| First Lebanon War — 1982 | PLO forces in Lebanon; Syrian forces also fought Israel | This was not an Arab-state coalition invasion like 1948 or 1973. Israel invaded Lebanon after persistent PLO attacks from southern Lebanon. Israel fought the PLO and clashed directly with Syrian forces, reaching Beirut. |
| Second Lebanon War — 2006 | Hezbollah, backed and armed by Iran | Hezbollah’s cross-border attack and capture of Israeli soldiers triggered a major war. Lebanon as a state was not functioning as the attacking army; the principal enemy was Hezbollah, a powerful Iranian-backed militia. |
1948 → 1956 → 1967 → 1967–70 → 1973
After 1973, the pattern changed. Egypt made peace with Israel in 1979, and Jordan made peace in 1994. The threat increasingly shifted away from conventional Egyptian, Jordanian, Syrian, and Iraqi armies toward irregular forces, terrorism, rocket warfare, and Iranian proxy organizations.
Major conflicts that were not conventional wars between national armies
These were still major assaults upon Israel, but should not be confused with the 1948, 1967, and 1973 interstate wars.- Fedayean raids and border warfare, 1949–56: Egyptian-controlled Gaza, Jordanian territory, and Syrian areas were used for raids into Israel before the Sinai campaign.
- Palestinian terrorism and aircraft hijacking era, especially the late 1960s–1970s: attacks by PLO-associated and other Palestinian organizations occurred inside Israel and abroad.
- First Intifada, 1987–93: a widespread Palestinian uprising in the West Bank and Gaza. It was not an invasion by Arab states.
- Second Intifada, 2000–05: a much more lethal conflict involving bombings, shootings, Israeli military operations, and armed Palestinian factions.
- Gaza / Hamas wars: major rounds included 2008–09, 2012, 2014, 2021, and the war that began after Hamas’s October 7, 2023 assault. These involved Hamas and other Gaza-based armed groups rather than Egypt’s national army.
- Hezbollah frontier war: Hezbollah attacks from Lebanon became a central northern-front threat, especially after Israel’s withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000 and during the 2006 war. Hezbollah is Lebanese but is materially tied to Iran, so this is part of the larger Iran–Israel confrontation rather than a simple Lebanon-versus-Israel war.
- Iranian direct attacks: Iran historically operated mainly through proxies—Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Iraqi militias, and forces in Syria—but in the present era it has also crossed into more direct missile-and-drone confrontation with Israel. That is a major strategic development distinct from the older Arab-army wars.
There is no debate as regards God's unilateral covenants and promises.
Because they are both warranted and then guaranteed by God Himself.
Try and keep up will you? I mean keep up with infallible Scriptural facts and truths.
This is your obligation is it not?
Evidently you are of the mistaken opinion that "world peace" will somehow be ushered in via the UN and the governments of nations.
Sorry to disappoint you (and your religious affiliation whatever it may be), but the Bible definitely does not prophecy this eventuality.
On the contrary:
Mat 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mar 13:19
For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
Mar 13:20
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Luk 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
Luk 21:35
For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Luk 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Hobab is the name of the guy who was a guide to Moses and the Israelites in going through the wilderness when they left Egypt. That is where I got the name. The Hobab briefing is a comprehensive evaluation of the current geopolitical situation, and it was updated June 29th at 7pm. So this is current.
drive.google.com
This is being shared so that we can have an orderly exodus.
Hobab_Briefing_for_the_Exodus (1).pdf
drive.google.com
This is being shared so that we can have an orderly exodus.
There is only one covenant. Jesus the way, there is no other way.
Stop with another gospel!
False. There are a total of 8, with 2 now obsolete, 6 remaining in force.
What religion did you say you were following? Just wondering.
All ot points to Jesus. Ot is the shadow of Jesus coming, nt Jesus is here, the real deal.
Noone will embrace a shadow when one can directly embrace Jesus.
It is not about religion, it is about the real God, Jesus with us. The very name of YHVH points to Jesus.
That's the reason Jesus said He is the way!!! Not 1 of the way.
Agreed
The Arabs were offered the better and bigger part of the land, they refused it. Israel took the little swamp land they were given and made the desert bloom again, just as the Bible said. Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME and you all would deny them that?! Unreal!
Israel today (red) vs the Land God Promised the Jews. (blue) You want to talk about invading other peoples land, maybe you better pick up a history book, an old one before the liberals started to lie.
You know when the Word of God came to Moses and all the prophets and even the Patriarchs before them? That's Jesus. The covenants are not broken, not a single bone broken in the Word of God made flesh in the womb of the virgin Mary the jewess. Not any of them are done away with, Jesus took them to the cross and permanantly sealed them with his blood. Jesus rose again three days later and then ascended into Heaven to the right hand of the Father where he is seated. Jesus still alive, and the covenants which literally set up all of reality and all of time unto this moment right here and right now, still stand. Jesus will come again to end the world and the ages and judge all that ever lived. Heaven and earth will pass away, but never the word of God, and he shall reign eternal. Praise Jesus.
Same to you. Arabs turned down the land offered to them. Israel took what the League of Nations gave them and prospered.
What a hero you are, and I assume you'd have done that too on Oct 7 to save the lives of Ariel and Kfir Babas.