"Sinning Religion".
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What good would that do?
You claim you don’t sin. Or at least ever intentionally.
So stop being a martyr and flat out tell us if you ever intentionally sin.
I am not being a martyr, just don't like being flamed like everyone else.
Holiness is more than deliverance from sin; it is being renewed in the image of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a life where the love of God reigns supreme. As John Wesley rightly affirmed, holiness is love.
You mean the John Wesley that wrote this to his brother later in life?
"In one of my last I was saying that I do not feel the wrath of God abiding on me; nor can I believe it does. And yet (this is the mystery), I do not love God. I never did. Therefore I never believed, in the Christian sense of the word. Therefore I am only an honest heathen..." [1]
I’d say not loving the Lord qualifies as sin.
I’ll also add you still haven’t answered the question. Do you ever deliberately sin? No matter how small.
Like Elijah under the juniper tree wishing he were dead. Or Charles Spurgeon, days spent in the depths of depression, John Wesley had his times of melancholy and spiritual depression. Sanctification does not destroy our humanity, just cleanses it from sin.
A good book on this is Martyn Lloyd Jones's book, 'Spiritual Depression'.
Why? Why can't the atonement of a perfect sinless being not cover you?
You don't think what is sin?
Only the Act of Atonement by Jesus brings us salvation..
All who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit ( are saved ) will do good works.. If a person has no good works that proves the truth is not in them and they are not saved.. But again their good works are not what saves them..
Jesus did include that in His example to the Jews of how they should pray.. Note he was talking to the Jews on the mount not just to His disciples.. And that was given before His Atonement was paid.
I feel more convicted about the good things that i have failed to do rather then the bad things i have done.. But they are both sins..
What two messages? I am not clear as to what the two messages you are referring to..
No way was He talking about His past sins.. He did not say i was Chief.. He said I am Chief as in the present tense.. And it was a saying He said everyone should accept, you and me included..
Let every one that nameth the name of Christ DEPART FROM
INIQUITY!
depart from iniquity or depart from Jesus Christ!
sin causes the loss of grace and seperates us from God!
the workers of iniquity are not permitted in the presence of Jesus Christ!
how much less do they dare say that they have union with Christ?
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.
2 tim 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ DEPART FROM
INIQUITY.
Matthew 13:41
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do INIQUITY.
Romans 6:19
I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Hebrews 1:9
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
thks
INIQUITY!
depart from iniquity or depart from Jesus Christ!
sin causes the loss of grace and seperates us from God!
the workers of iniquity are not permitted in the presence of Jesus Christ!
how much less do they dare say that they have union with Christ?
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.
2 tim 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ DEPART FROM
INIQUITY.
Matthew 13:41
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do INIQUITY.
Romans 6:19
I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Hebrews 1:9
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
thks