Contentment in singlehood

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RodColeman said:
Um, I'm saying that singleness is not for everyone. Something both Jesus and Paul said. This has nothing to do with me speaking for "all." Are you simply misunderstanding my grammar? It kinda seems like it, to be honest.

Do you speak for "all" when you say that all single Christians should stay single?
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I speak for married stay married, singles stay single.
RodColeman said:
Is that what Jesus said? No. Is that the only thing that Paul said? No. But, by all means, stay single if you want.
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By all means it is what Paul said, 1 Cor. 7:27.
RodColeman said:
But marriage is a godly thing. The first marriage happened in Paradise, when the world was perfect. In Mark 10:9 Jesus mentions God joining people together, so how can it be purely worldly thing?

I'll also note that you didn't give a clear "yes" to my question. Why is that? Because the Bible has no explicit instruction requiring singleness for every Christian? Well, gee, how interesting.
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No, it's an imaginary thing when you don't know either whom to marry and why you desire marriage. If God intended to join you with a spouse, you'd be married already, you wouldn't be here.
RodColeman said:
Also, the implication here is that Paul somehow "instructed" Christians to stay single.

That's interesting, because Paul explicitly says in 7:6 that he's not giving a command here concerning singleness. And in 7:25 he explicitly says that he has no commandment from God on this issue.
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Then why quoting him, since it's just his personal opinion?

Also, what IS commandment from God is no divorce, you get married, you're hooked to that person forever, no second chance, so you better think it through.
 
Lovette said:
I speak for married stay married, singles stay single.
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Alright. Thanks for the advice! :LOL:

Lovette said:
By all means it is what Paul said, 1 Cor. 7:27.
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Except he said other things, too.

Lovette said:
No, it's an imaginary thing when you don't know either whom to marry and why you desire marriage. If God intended to join you with a spouse, you'd be married already, you wouldn't be here.
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Oh, really? So if I'm single today, that means I'll never get married. When an 18-year-old, or 21-year-old is single today, that means they'll never get married? Huh?

Lovette said:
Then why quoting him, since it's just his personal opinion?
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If you read 1 Corinthians 7, you'll note that Paul makes distinctions between revelations he has from God and personal opinions that he himself has.

Lovette said:
Also, what IS commandment from God is no divorce, you get married, you're hooked to that person forever, no second chance, so you better think it through.
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And, therefore....never get married, ever? That's quite a leap.
 
RodColeman said:
Oh, really? So if I'm single today, that means I'll never get married. When an 18-year-old, or 21-year-old is single today, that means they'll never get married? Huh?
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They shouldn't if they're unhappy with mental and financial issues.
RodColeman said:
If you read 1 Corinthians 7, you'll note that Paul makes distinctions between revelations he has from God and personal opinions that he himself has.
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Yeah, he'd spare you if you've determined to marry, but God won't spare you from the trouble of flesh.
RodColeman said:
And, therefore....never get married, ever? That's quite a leap.
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Therefore, if you never feel like living with and caring for one person for the rest of your life, no matter how awful that person might be or will be, there's no second chance, you're bound to that person forever.
 
Lovette said:
They shouldn't if they're unhappy with mental and financial issues.
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And....all young people have that? Is that what you're saying?

Lovette said:
Yeah, he'd spare you if you've determined to marry, but God won't spare you from the trouble of flesh.
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So if you're single, you'll never have any troubles?

Lovette said:
Therefore, if you never feel like living with and caring for one person for the rest of your life, no matter how awful that person might be or will be, there's no second chance, you're bound to that person forever.
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Oh. Well that sounds different than "nobody should ever get married, ever."
 
Lovette said:
Still speaking on behalf of "all", aren't you.
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I'm asking you a question.

Lovette said:
At least no other people would be dragged into it for no fault of their own.
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What do you mean, "no fault of their own?" Do you think most Christian marriages are coerced or arranged or something?

Lovette said:
Married ever stay married; singles ever stay single.
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Is that all the Bible says on that subject? No. Is this a command in the Bible? No.
 
RodColeman said:
I'm asking you a question.
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Then I was throwing your question back at you when you mockingly supposed "all" must be like this or "all" must be like that.
RodColeman said:
What do you mean, "no fault of their own?" Do you think most Christian marriages are coerced or arranged or something?
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Then why do you get marreid, awaring of such troubles in the flesh ahead?
RodColeman said:
Is that all the Bible says on that subject? No. Is this a command in the Bible? No.
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Alright, take God's "opinion" then.

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. " (Lk. 14:26-27)

“A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, and sent his servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, ‘Come, for all things are now ready.’ But they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said to him, ‘I have bought a piece of ground, and I must go and see it. I ask you to have me excused.’ And another said, ‘I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I am going to test them. I ask you to have me excused.’ Still another said, ‘I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. (Lk. 14:17-20)
 
Lovette said:
Then I was throwing your question back at you when you mockingly supposed "all" must be like this or "all" must be like that.
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It was a question about the implications of something you said. It was not a supposition that I made. That's why I included a question mark. :ROFL:

Lovette said:
Then why do you get married, aware of such troubles in the flesh ahead?
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Nobody's required to stay single. Nobody's required to get married. It's your choice.

Lovette said:
Alright, take God's "opinion" then.

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. " (Lk. 14:26-27)

“A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, and sent his servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, ‘Come, for all things are now ready.’ But they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said to him, ‘I have bought a piece of ground, and I must go and see it. I ask you to have me excused.’ And another said, ‘I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I am going to test them. I ask you to have me excused.’ Still another said, ‘I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. (Lk. 14:17-20)
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Nowhere in these passages do we see a command for single Christians to stay single.
 
RodColeman said:
It was a question about the implications of something you said. It was not a supposition that I made. That's why I included a question mark. :ROFL:
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No such implications, keep your question mark for yourself.
RodColeman said:
Nobody's required to stay single. Nobody's required to get married. It's your choice.
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No, it's God's choice. You said God joins couples together, right?
RodColeman said:
Nowhere in these passages do we see a command for single Christians to stay single.
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Do "we"? Or do YOU?
 
Lovette said:
No such implications, keep your question mark for yourself.
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You don't want to answer my question, then?

Lovette said:
No, it's God's choice. You said God joins couples together, right?
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See 1 Corinthians 7:39. And the Bible doesn't say anything about God choosing a spouse for you.

Lovette said:
Do "we"? Or do YOU?
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You're saying these passages include a direct command for every single Christian of every era to stay single forever? Where is it?
 
Lovette said:
Because that's what every source of sexual knowledge, especially the church, has taught me. Look no further than dear @Snackersmom, who was so appalled and outraged at this discussion on sex for being "inappropriate." Well, gee, how did sex end up as the essence of profanity in every language?
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Awwwwww, lovette misses me, he's trying to drag me back into the argument with bizarre mischaracterizations, its just like old times! 🥰😊😊😊🥰

So sorry but I've got a lot going on right now, you'll have to keep arguing with yourself and @RodColeman . I typically only get involved when you start insulting a new member; Rod is a big boy and can handle this himself.

It was sweet that you had a vague memory of something I said though, and for more than just a minute or two! 😄 I don't think you've ever managed to do that here before 🤔. Good sign!👍Maybe someday you'll even be able to have actual friendships! Seems impossible I know, but hey, baby steps 😎👍
 
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RodColeman said:
You don't want to answer my question, then?
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Still speaking on behalf of "all", aren't you?
RodColeman said:
See 1 Corinthians 7:39. And the Bible doesn't say anything about God choosing a spouse for you.
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I don't wish for anybody's death, thank you.
RodColeman said:
You're saying these passages include a direct command for every single Christian of every era to stay single forever? Where is it?
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Enjoy your married life and don't come to the Lord's wedding feast, then.
 
How to be content in single time? Helping out community, local church, cook and bring food to VBS celebration. Go to town pool, swimming under summer evening sky, talking to friend in water, relax...

Be happy, kids. :)😃 😃
 
RodColeman said:
Um, do you understand the difference between a statement and a question?
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I understand a question loaded with a statement when you speak on behalf of "all".
RodColeman said:
Huh?!
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I don't wish for anybody's death, thank you.

A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.
RodColeman said:
So, um, now you're saying that married people won't make it into Heaven? Is that what you're saying?
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Only if those who desert their heavenly union for earthly union.
 
Lovette said:
I understand a question loaded with a statement when you speak on behalf of "all".
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OK, that doesn't make any sense. And you're still misunderstanding me. Alright. Whatever.

Lovette said:
I don't wish for anybody's death, thank you.

A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.
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Oh, boy. My point with mentioning that verse is that the Bible doesn't teach us anything about "soulmates."

Lovette said:
Only if those who desert their heavenly union for earthly union.
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Oh, so Christians won't go to hell for marrying other Christians. Great! I agree!
 
RodColeman said:
OK, that doesn't make any sense. And you're still misunderstanding me. Alright. Whatever.
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That makes perfect sense, as long as you sanctimoniously speak on behalf of "all".
RodColeman said:
Oh, boy. My point with mentioning that verse is that the Bible doesn't teach us anything about "soulmates."
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And my point is that this is only for widows, and don't wish for anybody's death just so you can remarry.
RodColeman said:
Oh, so Christians won't go to hell for marrying other Christians. Great! I agree!
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Depends on your definition of "hell". Marrying a bad person may send you into an early hell.
 
Lovette said:
That makes perfect sense, as long as you sanctimoniously speak on behalf of "all".
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I see there's still an epic misunderstanding here, mainly a grammatical misunderstanding. Oh, well! I can only do so much.

Lovette said:
And my point is that this is only for widows, and don't wish for anybody's death just so you can remarry.
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Um, OK. I won't, then. Wish I'd thought of that before, thanks! :ROFL:


Lovette said:
Depends on your definition of "hell". Marrying a bad person may send you into an early hell.
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You seem to think that all marriages are an "early hell," actually.
 
RodColeman said:
I see there's still an epic misunderstanding here, mainly a grammatical misunderstanding. Oh, well! I can only do so much.
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I see you can't own your words - "And....all young people have that?"
RodColeman said:
Um, OK. I won't, then. Wish I'd thought of that before, thanks! :ROFL:
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I wish you don't weaponize 1 Cor. 7:39 or twist any other verse, how about just read them for what they plainly state.
RodColeman said:
You seem to think that all marriages are an "early hell," actually.
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You seem to still sanctimoniously speak on behalf of "all".
 
Lovette said:
I see you can't own your words - "And....all young people have that?"
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OK, do you understand what a "question mark" does? Can you not tell when I'm asking you a question to test the implications of something you said? Apparently not.

I think somebody here mentioned that English isn't your primary language. And yet your English is actually pretty good. But apparently it's little things like these that are contributing to repetitive misunderstandings here on a truly epic scale.

That's what I'm starting to suspect.

Lovette said:
I wish you don't weaponize 1 Cor. 7:39 or twist any other verse, how about just read them for what they plainly state.
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"Weaponize," eh? Pointing out nuances in someone's writing is "weaponization"?

1 Corinthians 7 is one of the most nuanced and yet still one of the easiest chapters to understand in the Bible. But, hey, that's just my opinion.

Lovette said:
You seem to still sanctimoniously speak on behalf of "all".
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I discussed that a gazillion posts ago.

Again, I'm starting to chalk this up to fantastic grammatical misunderstandings on your part. Don't get me wrong. You strike me as an intelligent and knowledgeable guy, really. But that's what I'm beginning to suspect here.

And, a while ago, someone here mentioned that you seem to enjoy arguments and even admit to misrepresenting people's positions.

Maybe that's it, too.
 
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