Trade deal with Canada ~ what happened?

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U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer entered a meeting with Canadian officials Friday afternoon with a frown.

For more than a week, Greer had been in wall-to-wall negotiations with Canada’s top trade officials, and the two sides were tantalizingly close to striking a deal that would break through more than a year of icy diplomatic and economic relations. The two North American neighbors had agreed on the overarching framework. Industry groups and stakeholders had been briefed. A deal seemed imminent.

Hours later, it fell apart.

Interviews with more than a dozen current and former Canadian and U.S. officials, lobbyists and business groups suggest the deal President Donald Trump had touted just three days earlier ultimately buckled under a combination of last-minute demands and political constraints on both sides. U.S. officials blamed Canada for introducing new asks late in the talks, including seeking lower tariffs on heavy trucks, while Canadian leaders — including Prime Minister Mark Carney — pointed the finger at turf wars within the Trump administration over who controlled key pieces of the deal.

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All I know is the Donald has slapped a 50% tariff on Canadian goods. The supreme court already ruled he can't unilaterally impose tariff taxes. Besides that, a 50% tariff on Canada is a monumentally stupid idea and will be bad for our economy. This administration has already been ordered to return tariffs collected from US importers. Now he wants to go and start it all over again? The guy we have in the White House is a very slow learner indeed.
 
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Raise the tariffs. How dare these insolent fools of an apostate degenerate nation treat US as such. They attacked either out of malice or incompetence America only a month ago with their forest fires which they did nothing to help with and then insults US thus. Wicked Canada full of apostates and hypocrites proves to have failed to be able to govern their own nation once again. Straight up invade and annex outright, or have an Andy Burnham style rearranging of the party heads whatever it takes to bring a legitimate government to the plate, these fools have lost the right to rule and govern, and also the right to deal with my stewards whom came to these negotiations in good faith but the Canadians wanted to play games for a stunt. May the Hand of God take away all the lands Canada neglects and fails to govern correctly and give them to US who will do what is necessary, praise Jesus.
 
ResidentAlien said:
All I know is the Donald has slapped a 50% tariff on Canadian goods. The supreme court already ruled he can't unilaterally impose tariff taxes. Besides that, a 50% tariff on Canada is a monumentally stupid idea and will be bad for our economy. This administration has already been ordered to return tariffs collected from US importers. Now he wants to go and start it all over again? The guy we have in the White House is a very slow learner indeed.
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I think Trump has angered both sides of the border. Thing is (I've been keeping track and watching vids from both sides) Trump apparently came up with, or his team came up with, last minute items which basically made the signing untenable.

His claim that Canada has put the US out of 60 billion $ (I think that is the amount stated) has been disproved but on he goes. He says Canada should stop acting like the 51st state but then why, Mr T, are you trying to treat a soverign country as if it was the 51st state?

The man is becoming unreasonable. Most countries really don't want to play 'Let's make a deal'. smh
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Donald wants to use economic pressure to annex Canada; he said as much back in January, 2025. I think that's why Canada rejected the US deal: its intention wasn't to improve trade relations with Canada, but to exercise dominance over them.

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Yeah well that's not gonna happen. It sounds like he is on a 'revenge tour'.
 
SonJudgment said:
Raise the tariffs. How dare these insolent fools of an apostate degenerate nation treat US as such. They attacked either out of malice or incompetence America only a month ago with their forest fires which they did nothing to help with and then insults US thus. Wicked Canada full of apostates and hypocrites proves to have failed to be able to govern their own nation once again. Straight up invade and annex outright, or have an Andy Burnham style rearranging of the party heads whatever it takes to bring a legitimate government to the plate, these fools have lost the right to rule and govern, and also the right to deal with my stewards whom came to these negotiations in good faith but the Canadians wanted to play games for a stunt. May the Hand of God take away all the lands Canada neglects and fails to govern correctly and give them to US who will do what is necessary, praise Jesus.
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Are you being serious?
 
pinebeach said:
Are you being serious?
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Yes, raise those tariffs, they cause a major disaster due to their incompetence and then have the gall to insult US? Look all the haters and people with nothing good to say about US ever are largely from them. They were given an easy layup a generous deal, they wanted to play games, Bessent and Rubio even played a little into it, they continued to play around just to insult US. Raise the tariffs, I would say even cut off communication with a large part of their government, don't recognize them as legitimate at all, they deal in both bad faith and they are not a serious state actor. Until such a time as they can either have internal party elections and reform the Liberal Party of Canada, or hold a general election, then simply only deal with the monarch King Charles III and the Governor General and only very surface level diplomacy, they need to clean up, getting sick of them.
 
pinebeach said:
I think Trump has angered both sides of the border. Thing is (I've been keeping track and watching vids from both sides) Trump apparently came up with, or his team came up with, last minute items which basically made the signing untenable.

His claim that Canada has put the US out of 60 billion $ (I think that is the amount stated) has been disproved but on he goes. He says Canada should stop acting like the 51st state but then why, Mr T, are you trying to treat a soverign country as if it was the 51st state?

The man is becoming unreasonable. Most countries really don't want to play 'Let's make a deal'. smh
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He's been trying to get us to play since the late 80's and it just never got any willing players,lol
 
pinebeach said:
U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer entered a meeting with Canadian officials Friday afternoon with a frown.

For more than a week, Greer had been in wall-to-wall negotiations with Canada’s top trade officials, and the two sides were tantalizingly close to striking a deal that would break through more than a year of icy diplomatic and economic relations. The two North American neighbors had agreed on the overarching framework. Industry groups and stakeholders had been briefed. A deal seemed imminent.

Hours later, it fell apart.

Interviews with more than a dozen current and former Canadian and U.S. officials, lobbyists and business groups suggest the deal President Donald Trump had touted just three days earlier ultimately buckled under a combination of last-minute demands and political constraints on both sides. U.S. officials blamed Canada for introducing new asks late in the talks, including seeking lower tariffs on heavy trucks, while Canadian leaders — including Prime Minister Mark Carney — pointed the finger at turf wars within the Trump administration over who controlled key pieces of the deal.

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Canada was absorbed by the government
could be considered as a Washington colony
He is not satisfied only with wanting Greenland but has left the Canadians in a lunge almost in disappearance.
 
SonJudgment said:
Yes, raise those tariffs, they cause a major disaster due to their incompetence and then have the gall to insult US? Look all the haters and people with nothing good to say about US ever are largely from them. They were given an easy layup a generous deal, they wanted to play games, Bessent and Rubio even played a little into it, they continued to play around just to insult US. Raise the tariffs, I would say even cut off communication with a large part of their government, don't recognize them as legitimate at all, they deal in both bad faith and they are not a serious state actor. Until such a time as they can either have internal party elections and reform the Liberal Party of Canada, or hold a general election, then simply only deal with the monarch King Charles III and the Governor General and only very surface level diplomacy, they need to clean up, getting sick of them.
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You are living in your own little world. Canada is far from incompetent. Canada was told they had to allow the US access to their rare earth minerals, oil, electricity and a few other things. They were also told they were not allowed to trade with certain countries and French would not be printed on labels and such. Canada is an officially biligual country. The US supposedly has only 1 offical language but prints Spanish and other languages all over the place so that's some major hypocrisy.

It seems you do not know much about Canada but it is not some 3rd world country waiting for the US to send them money. I've listened to what Howard Ludnick has to say about it and he lacks credibility and the ability to speak the truth. People are major upset in this country as well because there is not and never has been the problem with Canada that the Trump admin would like you to believe.

Trump would like nothing better than to rape Canada of its resources along with Greenland. He is a very petty person and I am now convinced he is a narcissist. Typical narcissistic behavior is what we see to the point he now tries to say he is the one who is hurt. That, is what a true narcissist does when they don't get their way....they try to make the other guilty of what they do.

The US under Trump is playing a dangerous game with Canada just being a piece of it. I will never vote for the left but I am thoroughly disappointed in the current admin.

You are obviously sold on all that Trump says and will most likely want to get back to me with vitriol and possibly even curses since that seems to be what you do . I'm not reponding. Your initial post is outrageous and if you think you are somehow getting God Almighty to do your bidding, you will find out how very wrong you are. You should pray for the leadership of this country because the lies and manipulation coming out of it, is no better than the left.
 
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Canada was absorbed by the government
could be considered as a Washington colony
He is not satisfied only with wanting Greenland but has left the Canadians in a lunge almost in disappearance.
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I'm sorry but I do not understand what you are trying to say here. What do you mean Canada was absorbed by the government?
 
Squigglylines said:
He's been trying to get us to play since the late 80's and it just never got any willing players,lol
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Video not available? Trump used to be an avid Democrat and right now, he is not an alternative to the left when he is doing so much harm....and not just with Canada. I'm not sure about your reference about the 80's? Could you explain further?
 
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pinebeach said:
You are living in your own little world. Canada is far from incompetent. Canada was told they had to allow the US access to their rare earth minerals, oil, electricity and a few other things. They were also told they were not allowed to trade with certain countries and French would not be printed on labels and such. Canada is an officially biligual country. The US supposedly has only 1 offical language but prints Spanish and other languages all over the place so that's some major hypocrisy.

It seems you do not know much about Canada but it is not some 3rd world country waiting for the US to send them money. I've listened to what Howard Ludnick has to say about it and he lacks credibility and the ability to speak the truth. People are major upset in this country as well because there is not and never has been the problem with Canada that the Trump admin would like you to believe.

Trump would like nothing better than to rape Canada of its resources along with Greenland. He is a very petty person and I am now convinced he is a narcissist. Typical narcissistic behavior is what we see to the point he now tries to say he is the one who is hurt. That, is what a true narcissist does when they don't get their way....they try to make the other guilty of what they do.

The US under Trump is playing a dangerous game with Canada just being a piece of it. I will never vote for the left but I am thoroughly disappointed in the current admin.

You are obviously sold on all that Trump says and will most likely want to get back to me with vitriol and possibly even curses since that seems to be what you do . I'm not reponding. Your initial post is outrageous and if you think you are somehow getting God Almighty to do your bidding, you will find out how very wrong you are. You should pray for the leadership of this country because the lies and manipulation coming out of it, is no better than the left.
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All of my lifetime Canada has never have dealt fairly with US. Canada had a chance to play fairer and still emerge on the better end of the deal and they blew it themselves to play a little stunt against Trump that backfired in their own faces. Canada does deals with several enemy nations, enemies of both USA and God, such nations as Russia, China, and Cuba among others. Evil Canada did absolutely nothing to stand up to the Iranian regime whom committed this century's biggest State-sponsored massacre, and even tried to subvert the good countries, Israel and USA, that did do what was correct in punishing Satan's Iranian cadre. Canada consistently tries to subvert and undermine the USA, Canada has been helping the Democrat party to try to subvert and interfere with the USA for years now. Canada's most degenerated and ungodly provinces pay for their degeneracy by fleecing the more godly and sane provinces and then turns around and spits on their only few honorable civillians constantly. Canada is a failed nation and they are a nation of heretics and apostates, and a nation full of whores and feminists. Canada needs to get their house in order, or they need to be annexed immediately, we are not going to jeopardize the future for the Christians to mollify the wicked any longer. Do not think that by attacking President Trump these wicked apostates are going escape their fate without repenting first. If anything we believe Trump is too soft on these wicked foreign nations that have been plundering and insulting and designing all manners of mischief against my generation for decades. Things are only going to get more severe for the nations that turned their backs on God and designed mischief against my generation in their hearts, like Canada, after Trump is gone.
 
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pinebeach said:
Video not available? Trump used to be an avid Democrat and right now, he is not an alternative to the left when he is doing so much harm....and not just with Canada. I'm not sure about your reference about the 80's? Could you explain further?
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If you click on "watch on YouTube" it takes you to the video on YouTube. It's an old commercial for a board game Trump tried to sell in the 80"s where everyone is "Making big deals" in the games instructions/rules. I posted it because of your comment that not everyone wants to play "lets make a deal". Him going on and on about big deals is nothing new he's been claiming big deals all his life whether they really are or not.
 
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SonJudgment said:
Canada needs to get their house in order, or they need to be annexed immediately, we are not going to jeopardize the future for the Christians to mollify the wicked any longer. Do not think that by attacking President Trump these wicked apostates are going escape their fate without repenting first. If anything we believe Trump is too soft on these wicked foreign nations that have been plundering and insulting and designing all manners of mischief against my generation for decades. Things are only going to get more severe for the nations that turned their backs on God and designed mischief against my generation in their hearts, like Canada, after Trump is gone.
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There is something wrong with you.
 
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