Harvesting of the Earth

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OMC said:
According to Scripture,
Christ came to Israel first “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24),
Salvation is from the Jews, “Salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)
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That grammar states that Jesus came ONLY to Israel, not just first, but ONLY. It's also stated that salvation is OF the Jews, which is why Gentiles in times past had to become Jews for salvation. The reason I say this is because when I see alterations stated about the text that doesn't support the changes in language applied by various commenters in these threads, I have to question this practice and the content of the claims.

OMC said:
This means:
The Messiah is Jewish
The covenants are Jewish
The promises are Jewish
The Scriptures are Jewish
The apostles are Jewish
The gospel itself is rooted in Israel’s story
This is not up for debate. It is the foundation of Christian theology.
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And yet antisemitic replacement theology says that Israel has been cast aside forever because of their alleged guilt in crucifying Christ. Perhaps you don't believe this, but there are those who do. Replacement theology manifests in many, many forms in theological discussion and beliefs. Most deny that Gentiles, before salvation had come to them, didn't have to become Jews for salvation before the fall of |Israel, which is a denial of what scripture portrays throughout the gospels and Acts.

OMC said:
But Jesus says this in a conversation with a Samaritan woman, showing that the Jewish source of salvation does not restrict its recipients.
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Please note that Jesus agreed that it was the "crumbs" of what feel from the table by which the Gentiles could be blessed, which clearly shows the source of any and all blessing Gentiles could ever receive THROUGH Israel, not in spite of Israel.

OMC said:
The prophets, Jesus, and the apostles all affirm:
Israel’s future repentance (Zechariah 12:10)
Israel’s national restoration (Ezekiel 36–37)
Jerusalem as the kingdom center (Isaiah 2:1–4)
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Yes. Amen.

OMC said:
The land promises fulfilled (Genesis 17:7–8; Romans 11:29)
The tribulation centered on Israel (Jeremiah 30:7; Matthew 24)
The nations streaming to Zion (Isaiah 11:10; Micah 4:1–3)
So again, you are correct: Israel is central in God’s eschatological plan.
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Yes. God is correct in what He stated in His inspired word.

OMC said:
But Scripture also says, “In you all nations shall be blessed.” (Genesis 12:3)
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Notice, if you will, the grammar, where it states that IN Abraham and his descendancy, IN Israel were all nations blessed. That blessing is made glaringly graphic in Esther 8:17.

OMC said:
Israel’s role is mediatorial, not exclusive.
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Israel was indeed exclusive at the only portal through which Gentiles had to pass for salvation, adhering to the Law like all the genetic Jews. Gentiles became Jews once they joined themselves to Israel.

OMC said:
To affirm Gentile inclusion is not antisemitic. To affirm Israel’s election is not exclusionary. Scripture holds both truths together without contradiction.
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Inclusion in blessings, yes, but not in the New Covenant yet to be established in the Millennial Kingdom after the tribulation.

OMC said:
Paul warns Gentiles, “Do not be arrogant toward the branches.” (Romans 11:18)
And he warns Israel “They too, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in.” (Romans 11:23)
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Paul wasn't speaking to Israel given that he was the apostle to the Gentiles.

OMC said:
The danger is pride, not ethnicity.
Salvation is:
From Israel (John 4:22)
Through Israel’s Messiah (Romans 9:5)
For Israel first (Romans 1:16)
And for all nations (Isaiah 49:6; Matthew 28:19)
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For all nations AFTER the fall of Israel, yes.

OMC said:
God’s plan is:
Centered on Israel
Extended to the nations
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Yes, after the fall of Israel UNTIL the rapture, then all bets are off (so to speak).

OMC said:
United in Christ
Completed in the kingdom
There is no contradiction. There is no antisemitism. There is only Scripture.
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Remembering that the Kingdom is for Israel only, who alone will rule the world under the Kingship of Christ.

MM
 
SEMITES? That is some invention surely to control and they victimize themselves to the point of wanting to run over all Gazati citizens in the name of their false choice.
 
Musicmaster said:
That grammar states that Jesus came ONLY to Israel, not just first, but ONLY. It's also stated that salvation is OF the Jews, which is why Gentiles in times past had to become Jews for salvation. The reason I say this is because when I see alterations stated about the text that doesn't support the changes in language applied by various commenters in these threads, I have to question this practice and the content of the claims.



And yet antisemitic replacement theology says that Israel has been cast aside forever because of their alleged guilt in crucifying Christ. Perhaps you don't believe this, but there are those who do. Replacement theology manifests in many, many forms in theological discussion and beliefs. Most deny that Gentiles, before salvation had come to them, didn't have to become Jews for salvation before the fall of |Israel, which is a denial of what scripture portrays throughout the gospels and Acts.



Please note that Jesus agreed that it was the "crumbs" of what feel from the table by which the Gentiles could be blessed, which clearly shows the source of any and all blessing Gentiles could ever receive THROUGH Israel, not in spite of Israel.



Yes. Amen.



Yes. God is correct in what He stated in His inspired word.



Notice, if you will, the grammar, where it states that IN Abraham and his descendancy, IN Israel were all nations blessed. That blessing is made glaringly graphic in Esther 8:17.



Israel was indeed exclusive at the only portal through which Gentiles had to pass for salvation, adhering to the Law like all the genetic Jews. Gentiles became Jews once they joined themselves to Israel.



Inclusion in blessings, yes, but not in the New Covenant yet to be established in the Millennial Kingdom after the tribulation.



Paul wasn't speaking to Israel given that he was the apostle to the Gentiles.



For all nations AFTER the fall of Israel, yes.



Yes, after the fall of Israel UNTIL the rapture, then all bets are off (so to speak).



Remembering that the Kingdom is for Israel only, who alone will rule the world under the Kingship of Christ.

MM
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Mm, you have answered your own question. Congratulations 👏

Bible is to read as a complete story, not bits and pieces.

God will definitely hold so called "teachers" accountable.
 
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Churchgoer said:
Not sure how you pick up that? Why not?

I see people elevating all golden calfs. You can examine all cc posts.
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In your post, #209, you mentioned that there is no elevation of one group above another. If that was misunderstood, then I welcome clarification. Thanks

MM
 
craqdi said:
SEMITES? That is some invention surely to control and they victimize themselves to the point of wanting to run over all Gazati citizens in the name of their false choice.
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When you don't understand the complete story, thus your being a product of public media and its liberal bias, I understand your statement.

MM
 
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Musicmaster said:
When you don't understand the complete story, thus your being a product of public media and its liberal bias, I understand your statement.

MM
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LIBERAL? The Zion. ishit that you give off is a liberal who is vilifying Iran until they put agents to talk about Iran badly in the Western Palestinian movements themselves, so you are those of your offspring slanderous and ilk
We are the opposite of liberalism or neoliberalism
 
Palestine has to be liberalized with the support of all governments and real support by making pressure
 
Most churches as well as the Vatican have sent their spirits and support to the Palestinian people
The same Italian senior Giorgia did it And he is right
 
It is not about left or right but moral values. although they are in clear decline.
Therefore Palestine always.
 
craqdi said:
It is not about left or right but moral values. although they are in clear decline.
Therefore Palestine always.
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I suggest not to pick sides, unless we know absolutely that's God side.

The angel said to Joshua, he came for neither side, but for almighty God.

better not to support any secular side.
 
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Churchgoer said:
I suggest not to pick sides, unless we know absolutely that's God side.

The angel said to Joshua, he came for neither side, but for almighty God.

better not to support any secular side.
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Jews betrayed God that's why he is fully with Palestine the saint ☦️ ✝️ ☪️ 🇯🇴🇵🇸
 
Imagine Christian church pull out of support to any secular side?

It is a spiritual battle!!!
 
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