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Freed18 said:
I never sin, as my repentance from sin was real; and the gift of the Holy Ghost actually helps keep me free from sin.
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Wow! I never realized there is a denomination that thinks they are sinless!
What hubris!--or is it blindness? Ignorance of Scripture?
(John 9:41, 1John 1:8-10, Phil. 3:12, 1Cor. 3:3-4)

At the moment of repentance/acceptance, God’s HS enters believers’ spiritual hearts (Rev. 3:20), uniting them with God as heavenly Father (RM 8:9) and identifying them with Christ’s worldwide/catholic body or church (Col. 1:18). As noted, Paul refers to the comparable moment for Abraham as spiritual circumcision. This manifold event is also called spiritual birth or baptism (1Cor. 12:13).

Although a new Spirit-filled convert has access to all of the power he/she needs for loving like Christ (Eph. 3:16-19), no one attains immediate “perfection” by remaining filled with the HS forever (Phil. 3:12). Instead, the combination of temptations, ignorance and the old selfish nature results in immature saints committing their first post-conversion sin(s). Then he/she no longer is spiritual or filled with the HS but rather is acting like unsaved unbelievers (1Cor. 3:1). This “venial” type of error differs from the “mortal” or damning sin of unbelief or apostasy (rejecting God’s Lordship, cf. Jam. 1:15).

As soon as a new Christian realizes a sin was committed, he/she should confess it (1John 1:9) rather than compound it by trying to hide it or cover it up like Adam and Eve did (Gen. 3:7-8). Then God will forgive, and the saint will again be in a Spirit-filled or spiritual condition. This spiritual flip-flopping might happen once a day, or it could occur several times in an hour. While this instability may be bad, failure to confess promptly is much worse, because it results in chain-sinning or back-sliding. This condition is also referred to as being carnal/worldly (1Cor. 3:1) or prodigal (Luke 15:13) if it continues for weeks or years.

This unstable or immature phase in a Christian’s spiritual relationship with God is followed eventually (and hopefully soon) by a second phase of relative perfection or maturity signified in the Bible (especially the King James Version) by the phrase “walking with God”. Gen. 5:24 describes Enoch as a man who walked with God, and the apostle Paul described the goal of Christians (the fullness of Christ) as walking with God (Rom. 6:4, Gal. 5:16, Eph. 4:1, 1Thes. 4:1). Elsewhere the continually (ideally) Spirit-filled condition is referred to as walking: in light (1John 1:7), in love (Eph. 5:2), in a new life (Rom. 6:4), according to the Spirit (Rom. 8:4), and in good works (Col. 1:10).

The outward evidence that someone is Spirit-filled (Eph. 5:18) or walking with God is the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit or fullness of Christ (Eph. 3:19, 4:13), which consists of such attributes as those listed in Gal. 5:22-23: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Jesus said “All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another” (John13:35), because “love” sums up the moral character of God (1John 4:7-8).
 
Freed18 said:
Yep.

Yes, and it wasn't difficult.

No, in fact I helped a guy with a dead car while I was out of the apt.

Yes.
Why would that seem like a difficult thing to you ?
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Can you not tell me how one would brush their teeth to the glory of God? If you are doing all things to glorify God, how does one brush one's teeth to the glory of God?
 
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Freed18 said:
I never sin
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Dear Lord!

Another sinless perfectionist! Redefining sin, or lowering God’s perfect standard.
NightTwister is exactly right.

You never go even 1 mile over the speed limit?

You understand that would be sinful right?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Can you not tell me how one would brush their teeth to the glory of God? If you are doing all things to glorify God, how does one brush one's teeth to the glory of God?
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You sound quite silly there. Are you going to ask such questions about the minutiae of daily life?
Because you don't understand their former remarks about no longer being a Sinner?

How does a woman buy and change maxipads to the glory of God?!
How does a man shower after a workout to the glory of God?!

When you don't understand those in Christ are no longer Sinners who Sin,you may ask,but you cannot understand what it means to live within and as an example of the glory of God.

If you are a Sinner who Sins,invoking the name of Christ,you cannot live to or within the glory of God.

Any Christian who insists there are still a Sinner who Sins, is not the former. They don't know the word. Because they are unable to understand it.
 
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Bible_Locket said:
You sound quite silly there. Are you going to ask such questions about the minutiae of daily life?
Because you don't understand their former remarks about no longer being a Sinner?

How does a woman buy and change maxipads to the glory of God?!
How does a man shower after a workout to the glory of God?!

When you don't understand those in Christ are no longer Sinners who Sin,you may ask,but you cannot understand what it means to live within and as an example of the glory of God.

If you are a Sinner who Sins,invoking the name of Christ,you cannot live to or within the glory of God.

Any Christian who insists there are still a Sinner who Sins, is not the former. They don't know the word. Because they are unable to understand it.
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Read 1 Corinthians 10:31. It refers to eating and drinking. How much more concerning the minutiae and mundane can you get?

The idea that an individual is always loving God to the uttermost and others as Christ loves the church is preposterous. Those who believe this are self deluded. Even in your response to me, the choice of language you employed in your response reveals that in your response you didn't love me the way Christ loves me.
 
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Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin.

He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.
 
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Starsdance7 said:
Some Christians do live lives bound and dominated by sin, the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
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Yes, but God knows how to rightly divide willful sin from physical addictions and mental illness.
God also knows who is a new Christian, still learning what is sin and how to resist temptation.
Finally, God knows who truly loves Him as Lord and who is an impostor or pseudo-Christian.
 
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ScooterJackson said:
Been doing some reading lately on christian doctrine and I keep running in to people saying it's normal to sin daily and it's not possible to stop living in sin. It's like they are saying there's no hope to be free from living in sin and they have just accepted that this is normal.

What sects are teaching this exactly, does anybody know?
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As far as I understand believers in Christ are no longer called sinners. However, I also understand that during our sanctification after justification in this life we need to recognize we are a work in progress, His work. Understanding this we must be careful to set good examples and not cause a weaker brother to fall because of our actions. Think of it like this ... we are called to perfection and a sinless life and this should be our goal because we are saved and He first loved us. It's not that difficult since our body died when we were born again. If you have been born again, then you are capable to walk in the spirit and pray always and give thanks, and have charity one for another. If you have not yet been born again, pray to God that he performs this in your life and then you will know ye have eternal life.
 
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GWH said:
Wow! I never realized there is a denomination that thinks they are sinless!
What hubris!--or is it blindness? Ignorance of Scripture?
(John 9:41, 1John 1:8-10, Phil. 3:12, 1Cor. 3:3-4)

At the moment of repentance/acceptance, God’s HS enters believers’ spiritual hearts (Rev. 3:20), uniting them with God as heavenly Father (RM 8:9) and identifying them with Christ’s worldwide/catholic body or church (Col. 1:18). As noted, Paul refers to the comparable moment for Abraham as spiritual circumcision. This manifold event is also called spiritual birth or baptism (1Cor. 12:13).

Although a new Spirit-filled convert has access to all of the power he/she needs for loving like Christ (Eph. 3:16-19), no one attains immediate “perfection” by remaining filled with the HS forever (Phil. 3:12). Instead, the combination of temptations, ignorance and the old selfish nature results in immature saints committing their first post-conversion sin(s). Then he/she no longer is spiritual or filled with the HS but rather is acting like unsaved unbelievers (1Cor. 3:1). This “venial” type of error differs from the “mortal” or damning sin of unbelief or apostasy (rejecting God’s Lordship, cf. Jam. 1:15).

As soon as a new Christian realizes a sin was committed, he/she should confess it (1John 1:9) rather than compound it by trying to hide it or cover it up like Adam and Eve did (Gen. 3:7-8). Then God will forgive, and the saint will again be in a Spirit-filled or spiritual condition. This spiritual flip-flopping might happen once a day, or it could occur several times in an hour. While this instability may be bad, failure to confess promptly is much worse, because it results in chain-sinning or back-sliding. This condition is also referred to as being carnal/worldly (1Cor. 3:1) or prodigal (Luke 15:13) if it continues for weeks or years.

This unstable or immature phase in a Christian’s spiritual relationship with God is followed eventually (and hopefully soon) by a second phase of relative perfection or maturity signified in the Bible (especially the King James Version) by the phrase “walking with God”. Gen. 5:24 describes Enoch as a man who walked with God, and the apostle Paul described the goal of Christians (the fullness of Christ) as walking with God (Rom. 6:4, Gal. 5:16, Eph. 4:1, 1Thes. 4:1). Elsewhere the continually (ideally) Spirit-filled condition is referred to as walking: in light (1John 1:7), in love (Eph. 5:2), in a new life (Rom. 6:4), according to the Spirit (Rom. 8:4), and in good works (Col. 1:10).

The outward evidence that someone is Spirit-filled (Eph. 5:18) or walking with God is the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit or fullness of Christ (Eph. 3:19, 4:13), which consists of such attributes as those listed in Gal. 5:22-23: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Jesus said “All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another” (John13:35), because “love” sums up the moral character of God (1John 4:7-8).
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All you guys constantly claiming God's word, and you never mention Rom. 7:14-21 when it comes to sin.

Why is that?
 
Bible_Locket said:
I've been a member here for a little while. Trust when I advise you, you will never persuade your detractors to stop.
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Yeah, you’ve been here 5 minutes, with over 2000 posts, sowing dissension with members that have been here over a decade and longer.

Desiring att much?
 
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Watchman22 said:
All you guys constantly claiming God's word, and you never mention Rom. 7:14-21 when it comes to sin.

Why is that?
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That's Paul's personal testimony.You can tell by the first person grammar.
Paul also said his thorn in his flesh was a messenger of Satan. 2 Corinthians 12.

He's not speaking of all people in the faith.He's speaking for himself.
 
Cameron143 said:
Do you ever walk according to the flesh?

How often do you do so?
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Is it OK to turn away from the Lord and walk after the flesh?

I hope not. I see more and more people advocating for walking in sin claiming there is no hope for Christians to break free from the bondage of sinful lifestyles. It would seem this is the peer pressure going around religious circles so churches can allow more people to attend which is needed to raise money to service their church's financial obligations since they all seem to be in a lot of debt to finance their little social clubs.

Romans 8:1 says those walking after the flesh are back under condemnation
We know that's true because a person walking after the flesh in sin has to turn their back on God to do that

Romans 8:1 - There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. This is also verified in Romans 8:13
Romans 13:14 tells us to put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Colossians 3:10 tells us to put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created Him:

I mean we should be doing what the Lord is telling us to do in His Word, right?

It's mind boggling to me that some many these days either don't know what the Lord says in His Word or choose to ignore what He says. Instead they give people who quote God's Word a hard time.

This is showing we are in the end times when people no longer hear the sound doctrine of God's Word refusing His instruction and then they wonder why they are having such a hard time in life

Proverbs 1:25-31
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their ow
 
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PennEd said:
Yeah, you’ve been here 5 minutes, with over 2000 posts, sowing dissension with members that have been here over a decade and longer.
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Your voice speaks of Christ but your heart is far from him.
PennEd said:
Desiring att much?
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What a fool.
When a Christian stands against long lived Trolls,and haters,those fallen ones can judge me any way they like.

They're damned liars. And bully's.
 
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