Sin daily?
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The concern isn’t that the Catholic Church encourages sin — they explicitly teach the opposite. The issue is that any system built around repeatable confession and penance can be misunderstood or misused. When forgiveness is accessed through a predictable ritual, some people may begin to treat sin as a “manageable” or “low‑risk” behavior: commit a small sin, confess it, perform the penance, reset, repeat.
The Church itself would deny that logic, but the practical effect on certain individuals can be a kind of moral complacency. The danger is not in the doctrine itself but in the human tendency to turn grace into a mechanism rather than a relationship.
Mardi Gras historically developed as the final day of feasting and indulgence before Lent — the season of fasting, repentance, and self‑denial. Over time, the cultural expression of that “last day before repentance” became associated with excess, revelry, and debauchery.
Some Christian traditions, including the Catholic practice of confession and penance, never teach that sin is acceptable. Yet the system can be easily misunderstood. When forgiveness is accessed through a repeatable ritual, some people begin treating sin as a small, manageable offense — something they can commit now and “clean up” later. This mindset has historically contributed to cultural patterns like the excesses of Mardi Gras, where the promise of repentance tomorrow becomes the excuse for indulgence today. The problem isn’t the doctrine itself but the human tendency to turn grace into a license rather than a call to holiness.
There are groups who misuse 1 John 1:9 — which is a beautiful promise — but with a distorted application of it. When a teacher emphasizes confession-as-a-formula (“If you confess, God forgives, period”), some hear that as a kind of spiritual reset button.
This can unintentionally train people to treat grace as a mechanism rather than a relationship.Confess → forgiven → move on → repeat. The doctrine is true; the use of the doctrine becomes mechanical.
Some groups teach salvation and ongoing forgiveness in a way that is so streamlined, so simplified, and so transactional that it can produce the same effect I described with confession and penance:
- Minimal repentance — sin is treated lightly because forgiveness is treated lightly.
- Formulaic confession — “Just confess it and God wipes it away.”
- No relational depth — grace becomes a tool rather than communion with God.
- Moral complacency — sin becomes a small inconvenience rather than a rupture in fellowship.
There are also groups that teach what is often called “easy believism,” where 1 John 1:9 is emphasized in a way that makes confession feel like a simple reset mechanism. The promise of forgiveness becomes detached from genuine repentance and ongoing fellowship with God. When grace is reduced to a formula — confess and you’re forgiven — people can begin treating sin as a minor inconvenience rather than a relational breach. In practice, this produces the same problem as any ritualized system of forgiveness: grace becomes a mechanism instead of a relationship, and holiness becomes optional rather than essential.
Both systems — ritualized penance and formulaic confession — fail in the same way:They treat sin as something that can be managed rather than something that must be mortified.
Yes, as though that's a regular occurrence in your life.
Those of us who are not sin friendly would say "if I were to sin" because it should be a rare occurrence that a Christians would do sin.
I could but I doubt those who sin on a regular basis would understand any of it.
I could but I doubt those who sin on a regular basis would understand any of it.
Actually yes. I live in a constant state of being in contact with the Lord.
I got the Holy Spirit!
I thank God that we can crucify the "flesh", with the affections and lusts. (Gal 5:24)
As a new creature, reborn of the Spirit, the worldly oriented mind (flesh) has no power over me or attraction to me.
"Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfil the lusts of the "flesh"."
Do you feel they have the right to call themselves "Christians" if they won't obey their supposed Lord ?
Let's not forget that the catholics don't actually go by the doctrine of Christ.
They go by their own traditions, not the Lord's instructions.
Exhibit one is - the rosary is not biblical, and there so much more error that subscribe to.
Lent is not a part of the doctrine of Christ
2 John 1:9 - Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
That doctrine is not actually true since it leads to people be sin friendly.
Well, I'll leave to to waller around in your foolishness.
If we only had the Epistle of Romans, by itself would be enough to bring a called out one into Christ.
I'll give you props for saying the apostle Paul isn't a Christian when he wrote it. Many so called Bible teachers think the same thing, only they hurdle over Rom. 7: 14-21 so they don't have to say it outloud.
But saying it outloud doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
Personally, I am thanking God for my electric tooth-brush and the special tooth-paste I use.
I also thank Him for keeping me free from cavities for many decades.
As the bible says that prayer is a sacrifice, whenever I am praying to God it glorifies God. (sorry, I couldn't find the verse I was looking for)
Paul was a Christian when the Lord lead him in what to write for the Book of Romans
But the guy described in Rom,ans 7 is not a Christian and it's a lead in to Romans 8 which provides the answer to the delima the guy in Romans 7 is facing
They don't teach that in today's fake christianity. No, they teach we are all just like the guy in Romans 7 claiming we all have no self control and we can't help but to continue living in sin. That's a false gospel.
You do realize, I hope, that some of Paul's Rom 7 writings were about his pre-conversion life, still in the flesh, and trying (unseccessfully) to please God with Law keeping. ?
Exactly!
Maybe this guy brushes his teeth while grumbling and complaining rather than giving thanks and being grateful.
Wow, do you need a mirror lady to get that monstrous plank out of your own eye. Hypocrisy, Christ spoke quite a bit about it. Psst… It’s a sin.
Something tells me you’ll never accept that you could be wrong about ANYTHING.
You can't explain how to brush your teeth to the glory of God. The reason you can't is because you have never considered it before. Hence, I have just demonstrated that you don't do all things to the glory of God. You have sinned. Rather than being led of the Spirit, as you say, and repent, you deny this truth. Another sin. You can't possibly be walking in the Spirit currently.
And you do this for every activity you participate in without fail?
Rom. 7: 14 - 21 isn't one of them.
Come on, so he's saying he's in a state of sanctification while not being in Christ?
It helps for context to read the whole chapter. However, a few verses should suffice here.
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
That teaching is from the perspective of the born again believer. Describing what it is to be made free from Sin. And why it is necessary.
It also forewarns the listener,if they think they have no sin, to be redeemed from,they're deceived,wrong.
If we are born with a Sin nature first,and later are called to Christ,and are reborn with a new nature in him, the old has fallen away and the new nature has come.
We can't be born again in Christ,in whom there is no darkness at all,and yet remain what we were prior when born with a Sin nature,as a Sinner,the first time.
Can you provide a way to "give glory to God" ?
I want to see what you are seeking as a means to glorify the One due His glory.
Doesn't everything we do in Christ glorify God ?
You're trying to say they're not a Christian.
That's against the rules of every Christian community on the net.
In all of my years I have learned two incontrovertible truths: 1) There is a God. 2) I'm not Him.
Apparently you're going to simply disregard what Scripture clearly says. Somehow to you that's not sinful.