Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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There will never be enough of them and if the Dems take control, forget about it.

How much is being taken in under Trump? That is the other side of the equation ignored here. Incoming revenues under Trump Tariffs.

Yours is pie in the sky and wishful thinking. I will take the cash. They will not change and that cash will put me 5 K less in debt.

See above.

72 and still working full-time by choice. I do not care about retirement; neither did my father or father-in-law. Both worked until they died.

The cliff will come faster if the Dems take control after the midterms. High crime, corruption, open borders. Vote cheating. Riots funded by leftist groups. They will obstruct Trump at every turn
I get it. Your concern is you and the here and now. While much of what you say is accurate, your preference insures disaster. I'm not ready to throw the towel in.
 
Wasn't that written 2,000 years ago?
Yes, but my point is not when you see the thieves the Day of the Lord is at hand. We have had thieves for thousands of years. The point is when you see a thief like Adonijah trying to steal the throne from Solomon then you know the day of the Lord's coronation is at hand.

Right now we have thieves claiming to be "Messiahs" all circling about. Trump has had some creepy posts on Truth social making claims like that, and the President of Israel claims to be descended from King David and is heading up the Noahide convention in Jerusalem, etc. Telling voters that they'll get $5,000 if they vote for his party, that is the same thing thieves have done for many years.

We are looking at thieves who are all trying to wrap themselves in some kind of Messiah disguise.
 
Yes, but my point is not when you see the thieves the Day of the Lord is at hand. We have had thieves for thousands of years. The point is when you see a thief like Adonijah trying to steal the throne from Solomon then you know the day of the Lord's coronation is at hand.

Right now we have thieves claiming to be "Messiahs" all circling about. Trump has had some creepy posts on Truth social making claims like that, and the President of Israel claims to be descended from King David and is heading up the Noahide convention in Jerusalem, etc. Telling voters that they'll get $5,000 if they vote for his party, that is the same thing thieves have done for many years.

We are looking at thieves who are all trying to wrap themselves in some kind of Messiah disguise.
You do realize every generation has made a similar claim?
 
Maybe. What are your thoughts on DeSantis?
My thoughts are the candidate doesn't matter. The system is so big and run by so many behind the scenes if you were to get someone truly excellent, say Charlie Kirk for President, then they'll just assassinate him.
 
I get it. Your concern is you and the here and now.
Can't do much about the world going to hell. i am blessed with good health.
While much of what you say is accurate, your preference insures disaster.
You have not countered anything. But it will probably not happen. The proposal may have to go thru the House or whatever. It is just talk and contingent on Repubs winning which everybody says will not happen. I cannot figure out for the life of me why any sane person would vote for the Dems
I'm not ready to throw the towel in.
The towel may be thrown in on your behalf and mine. It is OK. We lose it all in the end.
 
You do realize every generation has made a similar claim?
I realize there have been people throughout church history who have made the claim, the fact that they did is in itself a fulfillment of prophecy.

We were warned to beware of false prophets. Jesus never equated a false prophet with someone who was being faithful to watch for the signs of His coming. But for some weird reason people ignoring the signs of the Lord's coming which is contrary to what we are commanded to do has become the accepted procedure in Christianity for "being wary of false prophets". It is truly idiotic. The truth shall set you free, not closing your eyes to the truth.
 
Can't do much about the world going to hell. i am blessed with good health.

You have not countered anything. But it will probably not happen. The proposal may have to go thru the House or whatever. It is just talk and contingent on Repubs winning which everybody says will not happen. I cannot figure out for the life of me why any sane person would vote for the Dems

The towel may be thrown in on your behalf and mine. It is OK. We lose it all in the end.
It won't happen. It's bluster. It will probably get votes.

I am somewhat amazed at Christians sometimes. The Bible teaches that the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ. Why such doom and gloom?
 
I realize there have been people throughout church history who have made the claim, the fact that they did is in itself a fulfillment of prophecy.

We were warned to beware of false prophets. Jesus never equated a false prophet with someone who was being faithful to watch for the signs of His coming. But for some weird reason people ignoring the signs of the Lord's coming which is contrary to what we are commanded to do has become the accepted procedure in Christianity for "being wary of false prophets". It is truly idiotic. The truth shall set you free, not closing your eyes to the truth.
Are you saying we will see the Lord's return in our lifetime?
 
Of course not, tomorrow is not given to us, to make that claim would be equivalent to saying the Lord is returning at this moment.
Or...to have received a word from the Lord. There are plenty here who do espouse an imminent return.
 
I think a lot of magas know Donald is a disaster; but they justify it by telling themselves someone on the left would be worse. I've never understood this logic. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Why support evil? I'd rather not vote than vote for someone I know is evil. Are we at the point where anyone who runs for president in this country has to be evil? Let's get someone who's good.
Most of my Christian relatives in the U.S. have voted for democrats for decades.
One of my great uncles was a Republican supporter since the 50's and 60's. His view started to change during the Nixon scandal. After Reagan was elected, he turned away from the Republican party permanently. He was a physician and felt that Reagan's policies were very harmful to less fortunate Americans.
 
Most of my Christian relatives in the U.S. have voted for democrats for decades.
One of my great uncles was a Republican supporter since the 50's and 60's. His view started to change during the Nixon scandal. After Reagan was elected, he turned away from the Republican party permanently. He was a physician and felt that Reagan's policies were very harmful to less fortunate Americans.

Don't know about back then, but you cannot be a Christian and vote Dem this day in age.
 
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