Trade deal with Canada ~ what happened?
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It was the weirdest of times and the more weirdest of times....
We shall see how this plays out.
I thought the Supremes ruled that the tariffs were illegal?
SCOTUS strikes down tariffs in new ruling
Highlights
- Supreme Court ruled IEEPA does not authorize presidential tariff imposition on imports.
- Decision invalidates billions in tariffs, potentially unlocking $175 billion in refunds.
- Ruling shifts trade policy toward congressional action, requiring new compliance strategies.
This ruling, delivered by Chief Justice Roberts, marks a significant check on executive authority and has immediate, massive financial implications for U.S. importers. By invoking the “Major Questions Doctrine,” the Court held that Congress must speak clearly if it wishes to assign to the Executive Branch decisions of such “vast economic and political significance.” The Court found that the statutory language empowering the President to “regulate… importation” does not constitute a clear authorization to impose new taxes or tariffs.
Why didn't Canucks want to play for their own teams?But in all fairness that's because most of the Yankee players are Canucks.
The same reason every entertainer, nurse/doctor comes across the border, more money! If you have talent you go to America.
Agreed, "free" healthcare is exactly what you'd expect. But if that doesn't work for ya they have MAID that will put you to sleep like a little doggie.
God blesses the righteous, God blesses US, it is manifest their curses were already in them before this, for their own evil souls the Canadians failed themselves. They gave up on God and God gave themselves over to the fruits of their own errors and their own crooked hearts. For pride and envy they dealt treacherously with America but the strong God of the truth strengthens our hand, he is the strength of the faithful, praise Jesus.
SCOTUS did not rule that tarriffs are illegeal they ruled that the Act that Trump was using as his authority did not give that broad base authority. In it is what you posted the final line.
” The Court found that the statutory language empowering the President to “regulate… importation” does not constitute a clear authorization to impose new taxes or tariffs."
In the dissent Kavanaugh along with Alito and Thomas. It was noted "numerous other federal statutes authorize the President to impose tariffs and might justify most (if not all) of the tariffs at issue in this case—albeit perhaps with a few additional procedural steps that IEEPA, as an emergency statute, does not require."
So that is what Trump did he at first used. Section 122 of the Trade Act of 74. To apply a uniform tariff on the whole world. Section 122 allows for a tariff of 15% for 150 days unless Congress extends.
In the case following the break down of the Trade Deal. Trump used Section 338 of Smoot-Hawley. That allows for a 50% tariff on discriminatory trade practice. Discriminatory in this case is legally defined as "at a disadvantage compared with the commerce of any foreign country."
The triple digit tariff on dairy products by Canada meets this definition. The pulling of US alcohol from the shelves and allowing other nations to sell their alcohol meets the definitiona as well. Which now you hear Trump talking he may just stop trade with Canada. Section 338 gives him that authority as well. To do a complete import ban.
Trump is also using other Acts such as Section 232 which falls under National Security.
The CITT just found that the dumping of truck bodies from China was injurious to the industry as well as the current case in Canada over the dumping of plywood from China into the market. More or less a company will import goods from China into Canada. Slap the made in Canada sticker on it then is sold as a Canadian product so it escapes tariffs placed on China as well as allows China to dump it's products into a market.
The US also has a ban on slave labor products. The Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act (UFLPA). Canada has been subverting this Act by again importing goods that we have a ban on that are made with slave labor. They import then slap the made in Canada sticker on it and it gets into our market.
As well as USMCA/CUSMA also under Article 32.10 states that a signee of the agreement must inform the other two nations if it plans to negotiate a free trade act with a non market country, China for example and specifically them. The other two nations get to review the full text 30 days before the trade deal is signed and then those two nations then get to assess how it will impact them. Which then gives the other two nations the right to end USMCA/CUSMA with a 6 months warning and then USMCA would just become a bilateral agreement between the other two nations.
These last 3 things are what Carney was calling the threat to Canadian sovereignty.
Then Trump is also using Section 301 that allows tariffs for unfair trade practices. So they did not rule that tariffs are illegal just the way that Trump was using IEEPA for his tariffs did not grant him that authority.
