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There WILL be those BORN in / during the MK age (and they are not "BORN automatically RIGHTEOUS"--These will be the only ones susceptible to "DEATH" [which will still exist in the MK age, but it will be much more RARE and reserved only for the rebellious]); But the only mortals who will ENTER...

If you've read carefully my posts, you would see what I wrote regarding this, where I'd put (under the second bullet point in my Post #292): So when you examine the texts I'm pointing out, here ^ ... ...ONE of those TWO OPPOSITE "beliefs" people will be coming to, IN the Trib yrs, is THIS...

--Rev20:5b "THIS is the resurrection the first [adj]" points back to what John had just SEEN ["saw"] in v.4b; and VERSE 4b speaks ONLY OF the saints who will have been martyred / beheaded IN THE LAST HALF of the Tribulation period (because the refused the mark of the beast); These 2 verses...

^ the ALREADY-AWARDED saints are shown UP IN HEAVEN, saying, "hast redeemed US to God BY THY BLOOD out-of EVERY..." (Rev5:9) *BEFORE* the FIRST SEAL will be opened by Christ, when He will "STAND to JUDGE" Rev5:6 (Isa3:13)... and the SEALS *ARE* "the beginning of birth PANGS" at the START of the...

No. I've not made that point whatsoever. [There WILL be people coming to faith in Christ when they find themselves IN the Tribulation Period. They are called "saints" also; just as, at times, members of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (that's us) are also called "saints"] ____________ BTW...

Would you say that you are a part of the [ones to whom the following is addressed] "churchES": "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches" (or are you saying these are in no way applicable... i.e. that you are not in any way associated with "the churchES"?)...

I disagree with the notion that the time-period-amount HAS BEEN "CHANGED". It is still the length of what it has been prophesied to be. So where these verses say, Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, G2856 there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days...

The only thing I disagree with in this otherwise good sentence ( :) ) is the word "symbolic". It is not a "symbolic" measure of time, but a literal measure of time: "seventy SEVENS [shebua - H7620]". It is CONTEXT which determines whether "sevens [of YEARS]" or "sevens [of DAYS]" or "sevens...

The "great tribulation" is only the second HALF of the 7-yr period. The following passages pertain to the second half: Rev13:5-7 / Dan7:21,25... and those passages state, "And it was given unto him TO MAKE WAR with the saints, and TO OVERCOME them" / "the same horn MADE WAR AGAINST the saints...

"sawdust" isn't saying that he himself holds such a view. "sawdust" is perceiving that "Inquisitor" does hold such a view, and is addressing that matter with him, in that post you've quoted of his.

The "REST" of the dead spoken on IN THAT CONTEXT (19:21 "REMNANT / REST were SLAIN"--the UNSAVED--and v.18c "ALL"--the UNSAVED! [existing on the earth at that point in the chronology]) "THIS is the resurrection the first [ADJ]" (v.5b)... is not saying, "this [what you see in v.4b] is the...

Not true. Rev5:9-10 says otherwise - https://biblehub.com/revelation/5-10.htm "...SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH" (said of a distinct group from that of the Rev20:4b "last-half-of-Trib saints" who are martyred/beheaded IN THAT TIME-FRAME alone). What you seem to be suggesting is, that ALL OTHER...

Right. But they are not THE ONLY ONES who "reign" with Christ. (See Rev5:9-10 / 1:5-6 / 2:26-27). The ones being spoken of in 20:4b (you are quoting) are simply the last ones to be *killed / martyred / beheaded* [in 2nd HALF of Trib] (and resurrected in time FOR the MK age); The ones in 20:4a...

Hi TabinRivCA, :) I'm sure you don't think any of us are suggesting that an ark will be constructed for the future/end-times events. No, nothing like that has been our point. lol I'm going to have to say that I agree with "sawdust's" response to you, on this point. That the "context" is not...

:) Hi Omegatime, I was just coming on here to respond to your OP question when I noticed this post of yours ^ (and I'm detecting a slight difference from your original one). Here, your question doesn't make full sense, to me. Could you perhaps *define* how you are using the word ^ (I put in...

I've already pointed out... that these two passages ^ are speaking of WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT in Isaiah 27:9,12-13. It is NOT covering the Subject of "OUR [the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY's] episynagoges UNTO HIM"... TO THE MEETING OF THE LORD *IN THE AIR* (I've shown the CONTRAST...

I want to ask this because I desire to come to a clearer understanding of your viewpoint, I hope you don't mind. :) If (according to your scenario) ALL saints of all times are "raptured [thus 'glorified']" at the point in time of His Second Coming to the earth (Rev19 time-slot), then WHO would...

Nor does it "work" to disregard 1Th3:13 (in the CONTEXT of 1Th4) simply because it doesn't happen to jive with "your [post-trib Rapture] take on things". ;) I'm going to say this in love and try to explain in such a way that you can grasp what I'm meaning... ... remember as a kid, doing one...

Irenaeus - "...so far useful and serviceable to the just [meaning the every-day trials and aggravations he'd been referring to], as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be...

Genez (to whom you wrote your response ^ [I only quoted a part of your post]) holds a "pre-trib rapture" understanding, just as you and I also do.