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this is a topic that recurs quarterly and always has the same result, as @Dino246 put. the consensus is the scripture doesn't anywhere outright condemn alcohol and that John 2, Acts 2 and Pesach and 1 Corinthians 11 are all referencing alcohol-content beverages. a minority ignore the reality of...

"what's in that cup, post?" "something God calls good" :ROFL:

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it. not seeing any annihilation here... :coffee::unsure:

there seem to be two separate definitions of "death" in this one statement - - John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, "I AM the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" ? even...

He has power over life and death, but in Him is no death. death is separation from Him, ignorance of Him: the scriptures define Him as The Life and define eternal life as knowing Him.

a charge that certainly would not have been made if He lived as a complete teetotaler.

certainly not limited to people on their deathbeds per Deuteronomy.

reality is that John 2 indicates an amount of good wine dulls the senses such that it is difficult to discern afterwards good from poor wine, and that an expert identified the miraculous wine as exactly that kind of good wine. are you a republican, that you exchange actual facts for your own...

previously covered. Acts 2:13-15 contradicts that presumption, and John 2 does not call it 'new wine' regardless

what law? how many people were there? who forces them all to drink every last drop immediately? does everyone who holds a marriage supper commit sin by doing so? does Deuteronomy 14:26 me an God is a sinner?

the governor of the feast at the Cana wedding is not described in scripture as someone who doesn't understand how to do his job.

you think Christ deceived them? that He began His ministry with a lie?

... and how many cups of juicy-juice® does it take before you personally aren't sure if you're drinking whiskey or cider?

zero out of a billion wine critics would describe ocean-spray© as "the good wine" 100% would mark it in the category "that which is worse" case is closed here.

but this common eisegesis is 100% contradicted by John 2:10 kjv

for which, interestingly, the scripture does not condemn him - in fact, when he pronounces curses over the events that ensued, he prophesies, God carrying those curses out - something you wouldn't expect if Noah's actions were damnable. claiming that Noah's having drunk the wine he spent years...

no, asolutely based on scripture. John 6:39 + Matthew 7:23 ((among others)) but i do understand why you hate what these scriptures imply.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is of Life. and the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. note that only the dead are judged, by books...

iirc the root of the argument is that the word for "pierced" is the word for lion. so the argument is purely about the true meaning of ancient Hebrew words, not about versions. i will do some tracing. i am completely untrained in Hebrew and Greek, so i can definitely not comment reliably offhand.

There is at the very leaat no argument that they had superior resources at their disposal, and the whole "anti-textual-criticism" argument is nonsense or at best a diversionary tacric; textual criticism is exactly what every good translator does, kjv governing body included: they critique the...