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we can't set aside His deity, or the cross is powerless. He remains God while He became man - and He cannot deny Himself or forsake Himself. the simple death of an innocent man does not absolve the sin of the guilty, but God Himself taking upon Himself the death we deserve, does. we also...

Adam knows goodness because Adam knows God and the works of God :)

in neither of those posts have you answered any of my questions. you have slanderously called me evil, you have slanderously said Satan speaks the truth, and you have slanderously said God is evil, but you have not answered my questions. i'll repeat: if Adam has zero concept of goodness how...

Deuteronomy 5:11 and Luke 9:62

i think you shouldn't be flip about blasphemy.

why does God not say this about Woman? why only Adam? why does God not say this until Adam changes her name to Eve and God has clothed them?

so in your opinion God unjustly accounted sin to Adam? or in your opinion Jesus is wrong? John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If you were blind, you would have no sin you are never in a good position when you find yourself agreeing with Satan. 'man only knows goodness by rejecting God' comes...

did Adam know God isn't evil? how? should Woman have known whether it was Satan or God who was lying to her? how? why did God not say of Eve that she had become like one of us, and why did He not say this until Adam had changed her name, and God had clothed them?

Christ calls him a wicked servant. there is no indication he was ever saved. he represents the Pharisees in the parable, persecuting the saints and rejecting his Master, Christ-God.

so far, you have not answered my question, so i keep asking. do you agree with Satan, that Adam and Woman only gained a basic sense of right and wrong by committing sin? why then would God have only said this about Adam, not Woman/Eve, and why not when they ate the fruit, but only after Adam...

how does Adam know it's good to believe and obey God? only by committing sin, like Satan said? 'learn from his mistakes'? that's your answer?

why does God say only about Adam he has become like one of us, not Woman, and not until after Adam has changed her name to Eve and God has clothed them?

God didn't say this until Adam changed his wife's name to Eve. and God only said this of Adam, not Eve. but you agree with Satan, that committing sin makes you like God? that's nonsensical.

you learned morality by committing sin? that's nonsensical.

i know to ask them because the idea that Adam and his wife were created as unthinking idiots without any concept of right or wrong is preposterous nonsense that does not fit the text. i know to ask these questions because people who believe that can't answer them. i know that exposing flaws in...

how do you know it's good to do what He says? have you been eating of a forbidden tree? is that how you found out God is good and obedience to Him is good? is your sin really the only reason you have any concept of good at all? do you honestly think that makes any sense? how can you be...

how do you know obedience isn't evil? how do you know it isn't good to die?

how do you know love isn't evil?

Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat Adam clearly has free will to make choices based on what he discerns as good, because Christ commanded him to do so.

not unless they knew love is good and not evil. no morality, no basis for moral behavior. they did not gain morality by committing sin.