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...of THESE wonders) refers back to what was commenced in verse 1, i.e. the SECOND HALF (what Jesus is calling "for THEN SHALL BE *GREAT* TRIBULATION..." and what Rev7:14 says of it, "coming out-of the tribulation THE GREAT" (in contrast to Mattt24:9's "[deliver you up to] tribulation" which...

...guess what I'm trying to get at is, are you saying that you don't believe that what Jesus said in Matthew 24:21 ("For then shall be GREAT tribulation, such as was not since...") is CONNECTED with what Daniel 12:1 states ("At that time... and there shall be a time of trouble [LXX - thlipsis...

...EVERY ASPECT (of "the DOTL"). While it is true that in this "present age [singular]" we (the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY) experience "many tribulations [plural plural]" (throughout its existence on the earth since the first century--Eph1:20-23 "WHEN [as to its existence]"), even Paul...

...with what you've put here. Please allow me to present a few reasons, for your consideration. While I agree that Jesus spoke of "great tribulation [G2347; thlipsis]" which commences the SECOND HALF of the "70th Week" (7 year period) and did so in verse 21 of Matt24 (which follows what we...

...is the biblical phrase "THE DAY OF THE LORD" (1Th5:1-3, and other places) - It involves ALL THREE of the following: --the SEVEN YEAR tribulation period unfolding upon the earth (the "IN THE NIGHT" time-frame [/DARK / DARKNESS - Amos5:18,20 "WOE unto you that DESIRETH the DAY OF THE LORD"])...

...stated: "HAVING BEEN CLOTHED IN white himation" PRIOR TO WHEN Jesus will "STAND" to OPEN SEAL #1 at the START of the "7 year period [/ Tribulation Period]"? if that doesn't indicate believers having been raptured out PRIOR to The Trib (i.e. PRE-Trib Rapture)? I'm fully convinced of this, and...

Hello again, BOY, Let's look at the text itself. Revelation Chapter 11 (as you suggest). Tell me where you read of the "7th Trumpet [which you are calling "the LAST trump"] being what it is that calls these "2 Witnesses" up to heaven. Yes, the text states they ascend up to heaven. But...

No. Not what I said. Please re-read my Post #316 ( https://christianchat.com/threads/preparation-for-the-tribulation.216913/post-5437524 ), where I talk about how the "LUKEWARM" (Rev3:15-16 and context) are NOT "SAVED" persons (scroll down to see what I put under my Point #2 in that...

My apologies for that "formatting" ^ ... ... I just now noticed all of the "underlining" that I had NOT INTENDED for the entire lower half of my Post #327 (addressed to @BOY )... so I want to apologize for any confusion this may have caused him, or any other of the readers of that post. Sorry...

...BOY, [pre-tribber here :) ] I AGREE with your statement on the TIMING ISSUE of the "10 VirginS" parable (it's NOT talking about "pre-" Tribulation time-slot, RIGHT!) Where I might disagree with you is, as to its PURPOSE. Jesus is not speaking here about whom He is intending to "MARRY" (10...

...with THE SOURCE (Jesus Christ) and thus will be "spewed" out of His mouth (and will be "tried in the fire"--I believe this refers to the Tribulation period which FOLLOWS "the things WHICH ARE" section [chpts 2-3], [that is] IN "the things which must come to pass IN QUICKNESS [noun]" section...

...[and takes place in the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" time-period Rev1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1 speaks to, which IS the "7 year period" we call the Tribulation period--WE / the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY will NOT be present on the earth for that time-period (and as reminder: 1Th4:17 is IN THE CONTEXT OF...

...passage BETWEEN this reference to "AFTER TWO DAYS [/after 2000 yrs]" and the phrase in 5:15 saying, "IN THEIR AFFLICTION [LXX-G2347 - tribulation] they [Israel] WILL SEEK ME EARLY [/ EARNESTLY]". IOW, "the beginning of birth PANGS" (i.e. SEALS) take place WITHIN what we call "the 7-yr...

[I meant to respond to this post back when you made it... my apologies!] What I believe is meant by "the beginning of birth PANGS" is "ACTIVE LABOR" (not the "early labor" that can last for 2-3 days leading up to "ACTIVE labor")... so, no, I see this otherwise (the way I explained in my earlier...

"Noah" (Jesus' speaking of this in both Matthew 24 and Luke 17) is not being used there as a picture or illustration of "our Rapture". Jesus is not covering the Subject of "our Rapture [/snatch]" anywhere in His Olivet Discourse (or this related Lk17 passage also speaking of Noah), which are...

...earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. [Rev12] [for the readers: (just to be clear) I believe this ^ text refers to what WILL take place at the MID-point of the *future* Tribulation Period, when there are yet remaining "1260 days" until Christ's Second Coming to the earth Rev19]

...[chpts 2-3]) in 3:5, is shown AS FULFILLED ("having been clothed in") in 4:4... BEFORE the opening of the FIRST SEAL which kicks-off the Tribulation period (7 yr period). ____________ To your other point, we notice in the text of Hosea 5:14-6:3 (about Israel... and Israel's *future*)...

^ Well, I will just place this here for the readers... ...since in your post ^ you put the phrase "the great tribulation" three times, I feel the need to say this: --the "GREAT tribulation" is only the SECOND HALF (of the 7 year period); It consists of "the THREE WOES" (associated with...

...said: --(at the 2:53-2:58-min mark) she says, "Jesus specifically says so shall the coming of the Son of man be, it doesn't say the pretribulation rapture" RIGHT[!], because this text (and context) is all about Jesus' Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY...

...('shepherd')]") that is also used in Revelation 7:[14,]17 (re: those "of all the nations" [v.9] who are shown as "coming out of GREAT tribulation [the SECOND HALF]"); and so verse 17 (PARALLEL to Isaiah 49:10) speaking of the MK age setting, says [v.17], "For the Lamb which is in the midst of...