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"He chose us in him before the creation of the world" is understood in the context of God's foreknowledge. I believe that God, in His omniscience, knew who would choose to accept or reject His offer of salvation before the world was created. This foreknowledge doesn't negate human free will but...

I would like to hear your experience.

I will answer what i think........The part that say "that saved a wretch like me" I don't believe in OSAS and i know i recieved the Holy Spirit and I know the day day and year i recieved the Holy Spirit. I had a very powerful salvation experience. The part of the Song the jumped out at me fit...

Well I do know what it means to be save because i am saved and have been sinse 2009.....Strange.....

I wasn't planning to repond, as this statement holds some truth. However, I'd like to share my thougts, given my experience with numerous conversations on this topic. I strongly disagree with the idea that a genuine believer cannot commit apostasy. Interestingly, some proponentsm of OSAS...

What does that mean? are you saying that God chooses who is lost and saved. Just asking.

Well that is good...

WELL that is the logical end to this theology with some. But not all OSAS believe that way. Some would say that if a confessing believer were living in habitual sin they aren't saved. But the others who believe they can live in habitual sin and still be sure of heaven is simply believing in a...

So correct me if im wrong but are you saying you can live in habitual sin and still be sure of heaven as a believer in Christ?

"You're right, he hasn't changed... and that's precisely my concern. He believes he's saved due to the OSAS doctrine, but I'm not here to debate that doctrine. As someone who doesn't subscribe to OSAS, I've had my share of heated discussions on the topic. My focus, however, is on the disconnect...

You know what? I believe a person can believe they are saved and not truly be saved because they believe OSAS. I have a friend who goes out often and drinks, parties and sleeps with as many woman that will let him. I have have warned him that his walk with Jesus can not be true. He told me that...

OH MY GOODNESS! What in the world is wrong with the way people interpret the Bible. The Bible give plenty of warnings. If i wrote a letter warning my kids to stay away from danger. I would not want you people interpreting my letter for them.

Hello, I want to assure you that I do not believe that God chose only some to be saved and others to be lost. I firmly believe that Jesus died on the cross for all mankind, not just a select few. I hold that all people can be saved if they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. I also...

Hello, I want to assure you that I do not believe that God chose only some to be saved and others to be lost. I firmly believe that Jesus died on the cross for all mankind, not just a select few. I hold that all people can be saved if they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. I also...

I believe the fallen nature was inherited, but not the act of sin.

I will have to apologize. I did not read your whole post.

There is a fundamental issue with your understanding. You seem to suggest that if an infant were born into a perfect culture and environment, they could lead a sinless life. However, it is important to recognize that no culture on earth is devoid of sin. Human culture began with Adam and Eve...

Before I answer your question, answer me a couple of quick questions. Do you believe you have sinful tendencies now? If you say yes, then when did these tendencies enter into your life?

Sorry if I offended you.....I was just answering a post. I thought I was anyway. SIsaiah 40

We are born with sinful tendency but not sin. We are born as one that has already sinned. This may seem strange but to address the question, I would combine the two points above. I believe that we are all born sinners in the sense that we inherit a sinful nature due to Adam and Eve’s...