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  1. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Well, that's not what I see in the scriptures. What would be your comment about a person who claims to be a Christian - but goes into gross sin and never repents. Do you think that person is going to end up in heaven?
  2. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Salvation saves only if one receives it the way God's Word says to receive it. There are so many who don't do that. It's sad. Well, what I see in the scriptures on these things is much different from your way of seeing them. Make sure you know the Lord. It's a big mistake to think one's...
  3. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Well, it doesn't look that way to me. The Bible would have made it plain that it wasn't for other believers if it wasn't to be followed by them. I know of other scriptures too in the New Testament, that show that repentance of sins is something that should be done regularly: Phil 2:12 12...
  4. MyrtleTrees

    Are you a "couch potato" spiritually speaking?

    I just found the picture online - it's easy to find pictures to illustrate any subject online. No one knows people's hearts to the extent that God can - that's true. But knowing that God knows everything about oneself - if a person is sincerely seeking to please God in this life - will...
  5. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    True - the Holy Spirit is busy in this world, trying to get as many as possible - to come to repentance, so that they can be saved. But without responding to the Holy Spirit in his inviting one to be saved - no one can be saved. Hearing and believing the gospel is the first necessary thing...
  6. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Yes, obedience to God, without having a relationship with Him is completely useless as far as concerns their status with God and as regards to what they can hope for in their eternity. Paul, a Pharisee - like other Pharisees - had been very strict to obey God in some ways at least (though...
  7. MyrtleTrees

    Are you a "couch potato" spiritually speaking?

    True - it's just a figure of speech. And represents laziness - an unwillingness to take more than minimal effort on one's own part.
  8. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I see the need for continual forgiveness, because I see God's Word as showing that it is required. If one repents of their sins, God forgives them. But if they choose not to repent - that's willfully turning away from God. God lets them go if they choose to do so. He doesn't force...
  9. MyrtleTrees

    Only a living sacrifice is acceptable to God

    The "works" or in other words, "fruit" of repentance must precede any following "works" or "fruit" that follows. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Repentance is a change of mind - a desire to be pleasing to God - a remorse for former sins. The thief on the cross had to have repented, since Jesus...
  10. MyrtleTrees

    Are you a "couch potato" spiritually speaking?

    Well, it's true that a Christian may unintentionally be a "couch potato" in some matters - I can agree with that. But anyone who intentionally puts up with this sin without repenting of it, doesn't have a right relationship with God. If he's a believer and failing to repent of it - there's...
  11. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    I agree with many things you said on this subject, and on the things i can agree with as being accurate according to the scriptures - I can say you expressed well! One thing I couldn't agree on - was your saying that since it didn't state that David's sin against Bathsheba endangered his...
  12. MyrtleTrees

    Are you a "couch potato" spiritually speaking?

    That's true, I've heard many pastors say! But if they don't repent of it - God is going to judge them for it. I don't think God has given all people - by the way - the same spiritual gifts. We are all to use spiritual gifts - Romans 12 and I Corinthians 12. I don't think all people have...
  13. MyrtleTrees

    Are you a "couch potato" spiritually speaking?

    You're right! There are no "couch potatoes" - who are truly saved! I made a mistake by mentioning the passage about the fact that God chastens sons. Since as I agree - any person who thinks he's saved - and yet makes no effort to live a holy life towards God - isn't saved - he only thinks...
  14. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Many sincere Christians explain the way to receive salvation a bit differently from one another. It's true that teaching it as correctly as possible - will get the best results. All Christians who explain it to others should always pray for God's help and guidance in explaining it to others...
  15. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Hi! True - salvation is a progressive thing. But it has to be real in order to even begin - and to be real, requires sincerity and repentance - a willingness to let God be lord of one's life. Though many believers aren't at first - wholeheartedly obedient to God - prayerfully doing...
  16. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Well, here is what I see: Though Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world, none are pardoned by it - except for those who first come to repentance and accept Him as Lord and Savior of one's life. It's true that spiritual improvements will continue on after one gets converted to...
  17. MyrtleTrees

    Only a living sacrifice is acceptable to God

    Well, Jesus Himself, said that action is required of a person - before God can save Him. God is the first one to seek people - that's true. But God doesn't make robots. He requires that we make the choice to repent, before He will save us. Think of all the Bible verses that preach...
  18. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Well, I see evidences that Paul did preach the necessity for repentance: 2 Cor 7:10 10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. KJV 2 Tim 2:25-26 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God...
  19. MyrtleTrees

    Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

    Sorry we don't agree on that. Luke 16:13 13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. KJV It says one must receive Jesus as "Lord" - that is another word for...