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  1. Beekeeper

    More about Israel.

    The earthly nation? What? No way! God is DONE with that. He has called it spiritual Sodom and Egypt, tried it before two witnesses, sentenced it to death and executed it in AD70. He never intends to restore it again, and never has. Revelations 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a...
  2. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    I am not sure which Bible version you are using, but nothing in the text of mine says that Jesus become an earthly king. I understand that He will destroy the world when the right time comes. Yes, john was at Patmos, but he was in the spirit, seeing visions from heaven. Revelations already...
  3. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    White horse - Jesus in judgement, wears the crown. Red horse - War angels, civil war in Jerusalem. Black horse - represents famine, lamentations 5:10. Pale horse - both damnation and death by sword, hunger, disease and wild beasts. Greek word for "earth" - can mean the world, also can mean a...
  4. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    What do you mean "yet"? Who told you that Jesus would establish an earthly kingdom? Have another look at Revelations 20 and read everything that is to happen in the "thousand years". V.2 Satan (who is now cast out of heaven) is to be "bound", ie limited. V. 4 The SOULS of them that were beheaded...
  5. Beekeeper

    Revolution in Iran

    How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace!
  6. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    It is probably fair I give you my understanding of Revelations 6:9-11, as you quoted it to me. These are the saints and prophets murdered by the Pharisees. Jesus had promised that He would avenge them: Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he...
  7. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    Nobody will judge you if you just admit that Jesus is the king in heaven. I think you already know that in your heart. He is one with the Father and the Holy Spirit (1Jhon 5:7) He is "by the right hand of God exalted" (Acts 2:33), He has authority to forgive our sins right now (1John 1:9), His...
  8. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    Who is filling in for Him then?
  9. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    Ok. So He is on long service leave then?
  10. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    Whether you are like me only expecting the second coming or the "rapture", the dress requirements are pretty much the same. Thankfully the Bible gives us a lot of detail on that. Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day...
  11. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    I do not fall into the box of assuming that Jesus symbolically returned at AD70, but I do think He has been reigning in heaven since He ascended to be on the right hand of God (Acts 2:23). When we come to the Revelations 20 passage about the thousand years, we must not forget everything else...
  12. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    Revelations 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Ok, I see now. We are reading that with different assumptions, but all good because we will find out anyway. For me I see the kingdom of Jesus as being present and...
  13. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    Luke 12 also has a lot to tell us about what "watching" actually means. V. 3 Watch your speech, V.4-7 watch who you fear, v.9 watch that you do not deny Jesus, v.10 watch that you continue to believe, v.11 and 12 watch that you trust God to protect you, vs. 15-34 watch that you do not become...
  14. Beekeeper

    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. You have pointed out in your...
  15. Beekeeper

    More about Israel.

    Revelations 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of...
  16. Beekeeper

    More about Israel.

    2Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? 2Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as...
  17. Beekeeper

    Revolution in Iran

    If your next president is a man, find one that is a long term husband of one wife. Otherwise he will be very good at pretending to love you. Trump and Netanyahu don't care if you live or die.
  18. Beekeeper

    More about Israel.

    I would question the morality of Palestinians that "like" modern Israel and do not resist it.
  19. Beekeeper

    More about Israel.

    The first part sounds a bit like the old debate about man's free will vs. God's free will. In the times of Ishmael and of Esau the Abrahamic covenant was in place, yet it seems that you are telling me that God was free to NOT choose those two children? Well I can see that too, but did God bound...
  20. Beekeeper

    More about Israel.

    None of us who have chosen Christ also have to decide between modern Israel and Islam, because we already choose Christ. The nation that God called Israel was destroyed in 70AD, and by that time the four and twenty elders which sat before God seemed to think it was good riddance to bad rubbish...