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I coined the term here, and it is a thing here. The CDSC (Calvinist Derangement Syndrome Cult) are a group of people that will come in and label others a Calvinist if THEY feel that person says anything that THEY feel is even a tiny bit "Calvin adjacent", even if that person says they've never...

Yet these same intellectual powerhouses can't seem to grasp the fact that when they say that salvation can be lost, they are saying salvation is works based and being "saved" is just being placed on Holy probation and is completely dependent on our behavior and the weight is ALL on our...

Yes, sin was in the world before Moses was given the law. Adam brought sin to all mankind, sin being doing that which is again Because the spiritual connection to God was what died the DAY Adam ate, and 2 dead spirits produce dead spirits. This is really 101 stuff that we see the second the...

Yes!!! This. It's tragic and there's nowhere the conversation can go. The only way I believe this can be possible, is because the person has not been born of the Spirit, or born-again, so have no frame of reference for the two different natures. This is how such a simple and fundamental truth...

But you completely discount everything of the spirit in this equation. That's why we can never get on the same page. The truth and power of the Spirit completely alludes you. You don't take it into account at all in these debates. You do know this was the WHOLE POINT right? Jesus came to make a...

I wasn't really diving into any of these things deeply, I was just noticing and talking about an overall trend. A view of God that lessens Him in every argument, a view that lifts up the deeds and works of men and gives them credit that in truth does not belong to them. I'm specifically talking...

It's a matter of the Spirit. We are born in Adam, or "of the flesh". We are born spiritually dead and disconnected from God. It's not that babies are "born having sinned", but we are born cut off, spiritually disconnected from God. The only man born with this connection in tact since the fall...

Does anyone else find it strange that it's the same group of people that argue we can lose salvation, that salvation is not a gift of God but a result of our choice, and now that it's not Jesus righteousness we receive in order to be born again. These people seem it have a VERY low view of God...

No, your misunderstanding it is for a very simple reason and is becoming more evident with each passing day, the things of the Spirit are foolishness to those who are perishing. You just don't understand the things of the Spirit because you are still blind to them, at least that is what you and...

I'm not sure exactly why you automatically assume the restraint being removed equals the restrainer ceasing to exist or something like that. Don't get me wrong I understand what you're saying and see clearly why you'd make this argument really, but I don't see that this "HAS" to mean it in the...

The tragic thing is when you remove the Spirit all that's left is what they promote. It's exactly how I thought of these things before I was born again, when I only thought I was saved, before God removed the veil and opened my eyes, ears, and heart to the Truth. These are all "blind to the...

False equivalency, and in no way at all "proves" or even backs up your point here. We are born with a dead spirit, cut off from God. That is our nature because we are all born to the flesh, or born of Adam. After Adam there was only one other man that was born with that Spirit alive and...

I half follow you through some of this, but to suggest Jesus was born with the same nature as us is just very wrong. While Jesus was born 100% man, He was not born of Adam. I don't want to act like I'm teaching you anything here, you seem to get it for the most part until I read "If He did not...

You're a liar. He doesn't teach or say anything like this. This is your cartoon version of "Calvinism" that you slap on others so you can ignore any real conversation and lift up yourself as a "warrior of God". It's honestly sad and tragic you're as blind to it as you are. The fact you have to...

I get it now, these comments finally opened my eyes to the reason this conversation can go on and on without any kind of understanding or common ground between each other ever being reached. One side is diving deeper into the truths of Gods, debating in good faith and trying to present their...

So they get some special credit for "not resisting"? That's a weak argument in my opinion, again to do nothing more than rob God of His glory. Crazy.

Nope, completely wrong. We are all going to Hell because of Adam, from the start. God doesn't "send" or "choose" who goes to hell, this is a strawman argument that has nothing to do with anything I said. That's the starting point, we're all otw to Hell, God only saves. I don't know why this...

See you're right about obedience, but only the saved can even be obedient, so if you're suggesting obedience is needed to BE saved then you're dead wrong, just categorically and completely wrong. If you are saying that the saved will be obedient I agree, but only if the credit is rightly...

It's not so much we are born "guilty of all sin", and to be honest I'm not sure who is making that argument, but being "born into sin" means we are born of the flesh, spiritually dead. Being born disconnected from God as a result of Adams sin. God didn't make a mistake when He said "but of the...

They will never believe you or be swayed. They can't give up their own glory or give God His due credit. There's nothing they hate more than a believer saying God get's ALL glory we get none. They hate this truth and will sit here and argue all day to shrink God and lift up themselves. In my...