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    The book of Job

    What was it that Job said that was right, because in chapter thirty eight we are told by God that Job was without knowledge. Surely the right thing was not when Job said God would laugh at the trial of the innocent, or when Job said, "Is it good unto thee that thou shouldest oppress, that thou...
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    The book of Job

    No, God is not responsible for Job's sin. Consider what was said between Satan and God. 1st Test Satan said, "But put forth your hand now, and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face." God said, "Behold, all that he has is in your power; only upon himself put not forth...
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    The book of Job

    If you introduce someone to a hitman and you know the hitman will want to take the person out, and you know the ending before the beginning, then you are responsible. When you put limits on the hitman, then everything outside the limits is fair game.
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    The book of Job

    A proud man exalts himself. Job 29:11 When the ear heard me, then it blessed me; and when the eye saw me, it gave witness to me: Job 29:17 And I brake the jaws of the wicked, and plucked the spoil out of his teeth. (Taking gold from the teeth of the dead.) Job 29:18 Then I said, I shall die...
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    The book of Job

    It is rather hard to follow the discussion when you place so much thought in one post. Satan was God's proxy, therefore Job, Job's wife, Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar, Elihu, Job's brothers, Job's sisters, all of Job's acquaintances before Satan's attack were correct. (God is not the author of...
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    It is Satan. You are saying Job charged God with being Satan. It has to be one way or the other. Either way, Job doesn't look good. Doesn't it matter what God said? God said, Job 2:3----although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. If you hire a hit man to beat someone...
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    The verse says Job 10:3 Is it good unto thee--that thou shouldest shine upon the counsel of the wicked? You are saying the verse does not mean what it is saying, but rather something you imagine. How do you know that Job did not know about Satan having accused Job? What did God reveal to...
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    The book of Job

    You are saying Job accused God of seeking counsel from wicked men. What does that say for God? and what does that say for Job? Isn't it more likely that Job was referring to the counsel of Satan, when Satan said remove the hedge and put forth your hand and Job will curse you to your face. This...
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    The book of Job

    I would like to comment on your last sentence first. No, I do not know that the evil was brought about by Satan. To deny that God was responsible for what happened to Job is to deny God's omniscience. You continually exalt Job's relationship with God, and yet you claim you know more than Job...
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    The book of Job

    Does it matter whose definition you use? Isn't it more important, that whether you use simile, or metaphor, leviathan still equates to Satan? God asked Job If he was going to make a playmate out of Satan forever. God also reminded Job that Satan was the king over all the children of pride. How...
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    The book of Job

    Have you not heard of implied similies? Similes are associated with poetic and imaginative writings, whereas metaphors compare two different things directly. Implied similes----Implied similes suggest a comparison without stating it outright, relying on context and imagery. They often feel...
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    The book of Job

    I appreciate that you recognize that Satan is being alluded to in Job chapter forty one. We could call this complete chapter a metaphor, or better yet, a simile, as similes are not required to have “as”, or “as is” within them. Metaphor--- A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of...
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    The book of Job

    I have been rather rude and I apologize for that. I love this book as much as you love Job. We sure look at this book from completely opposite points of view. I see God as the Hero of this book, full of goodness and mercy. I see Job as a wretched creature, just like the rest of us before we...
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    The book of Job

    I like the statement, "So, the context determines whether the fear is crippling or faith-filled." I like the statement because that is exactly what I gave you, context. The following are examples of context. Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth...
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    The book of Job

    Gen 32:11 Deliver me, I pray thee, from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau for I fear (yārē') him, lest he will come and smite me, and the mother with the children. Perhaps you missed the following verse. Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that...
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    The book of Job

    Those three verses do not contain reverence. Job feared God, but that does not equate to reverence. A person who reverences God does not condemn God. Job 40:8 Will you also disannul my judgment? will you condemn me, that you may be righteous? Nor do they reprove God. Job 40:2 Shall he that...
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    Was it frivolous when God asked it? Job 40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
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    The book of Job

    My claim is that Job was serving two masters.
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    The book of Job

    If I asked you if you always beat your dog until it bleeds, would you surmise that I believed you beat your dog?
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    The book of Job

    So you are the one that decides if Job is speaking figuratively, or if he really means it?