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I’ll read chapters 4 and 5 what am I looking for ? The 24 Elders = The entire Body of Christ = Pretribulationalism and all it’s chronologies of events. The smoking gun ?

That’s laughable . I thought you were going to tell me their identity. i.e. Moses , & Elijah , Maybe Paul , and the 12 apostles of the lamb and a few others . US. ??? you funny

Well , I suspect you are using scripture to exalt yourself in that that I quite honestly said I didn’t know who they were and asked who you thought they were . And you appear to be avoiding sharing your inside information. That’s ok Keep it to yourself or just mock those who don’t know your big...

More specifically one that is not converted and not Gods. Like in James you believe there is one God , you do well the devils also believe and tremble.

Thousands of commentaries , I’ll go with the scripture . It is a mystery.

so you say

The language without getting into the Greek is referring to going out to meet someone and joining their company and escorting them back to earth. I’m not confused about this . I want God to return . As the lightning shines from the east to the west. And fix this mess down here. But alas I will...

"Now you are the people and wisdom will die with you” Job. please enlighten me . If it is relevant to your eschatology.

Haven’t got a clue who the 24 elders are . Who do you say they are ?

Pretty simply , The Lord Returns for His Church on The Last Day and The Last Trumpet. If one is taken and another left I assume you are using Matthew 24 as a proof text for 2 comings of Christ. More specifically according pretribulationalism for the church and later with the church. Problem is...

backattcha >Liberal , godless humanism, is not accepting the Word of God as the final authority on truth. man.

There is one God you don’t get the one without the other. "He that sees me sees Him who sent me “ Jesus is called the Everlasting Father in Isaiah , The Brightness of the Fathers glory in Hebrews 1. The Holy Spirit , is also the Spirit God , The Spirit of the Father , and the Spirit of Christ. I...

I’ll go with the Bible . We are talking about what the Bible says. The Church is on the earth at the Second Coming of Christ. 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17 .

The Last Day , and the Last Trumpet The Rapture , a Question of Timing William R. Kimball The Last Day “ Martha confronted the Lord and acknowleded that her brother would “rise again in the AT THE LAST DAY” (John 11:24) It is import to note that Martha’s resurrection perspective was not based...

The Last Day , and the Last Trumpet The Rapture , a Question of Timing William R. Kimball The Last Day “ Martha confronted the Lord and acknowleded that her brother would “rise again in the AT THE LAST DAY” (John...

Are you sure plain and simple statements as Martha’s in the Gospel of John as I know my Brother shall rise on the Last Day would not be a huge problem for you ? I just got up and am drinking coffee. Before we discuss the Bible can we agree to be a little less narcissistic with our speech with...

Tell me about it !

Excuse me for forgetting who said it in a previous post but I like the input of a brother who said, “You want to hear the voice of God ? Read the Bible out load.

was there from 78-95 in my 20’s in the 70’s& my 70’s in the 20’s

Sounds like a nightmare. God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. The Old K mart oh yeah.