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    OSAS origins and comparison

    You did not quote what I said, which is what I asked of you; but simply put words into my mouth. What statement of mine are you referring to?
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    Is Knowledge of the Original Languages Necessary for KJV Believers?

    Do you think the KJV translates 1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 2Th 3:12 Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Iasked: "Are you saying that Jesus did not die for the sin of stopping trusting Him? Are you saying that anyone who began to trust Jesus and stopped trusting Him at some point, has no way back into reconciliation with Him?" Please, quote what I said that sounds like that to you. You don’t seem...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Are you saying that Jesus did not die for the sin of stopping trusting Him? Are you saying that anyone who began to trust Jesus and stopped trusting Him at some point, has no way back into reconciliation with Him? I don’t disagree that the Pharisees did that. But that they did that, does not...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Please, to show you have actually in good faith considered the other side’s argument, in your own words, explain how someone who does not agree with OSAS would exegete to support their view, the texts you have cited as proving your view.
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    Is Knowledge of the Original Languages Necessary for KJV Believers?

    Knowledge of the original languages is necessary for all believers who want to work out exactly what God had recorded for mankind. Otherwise we are relying on the supposedly infallible expertise of someone who translated God’s words for us, when we know that all teachers make many mistakes...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Keep trusting Jesus and you will continue to be there. If you are relying on what Bible verses seem to mean, while not walking in the spirit of Jesus, you are in the same predicament as the Pharisees who searched the scriptures thinking that in them they had aeonous life.
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    It is certainly “surmising” on your part. God giving someone a garment is not in any way indicative that He has promised them that they will live forever. Yes, you are surmising. You are assuming that eating once of the tree of Life would have given Adam and Eve immortality. The Hebrew verbs...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Yes. We should be trusting God because we believe His true nature is revealed in Jesus, not because we believe He has promised to pay us for our service with endless life. We can trust in Jesus quite readily out of love for Him, without believing in any such alleged “guarantee”.
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    You have a lot of surmising going on there, randyk, posing as knowledge. If Adam and Eve were guaranteed endless life on the basis that God prophesied that the serpent who tempted them would be defeated, then we are all guaranteed endless life on the same basis. Do you believe everyone human...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    You said "It is obvious that God's love for us would involve giving us assurances that we will be with Him forever--not just temporarily.” Why did God’s love for Adam and Eve before they fell not involve giving them assurances that they would be with Him forever--not just temporarily, if it is...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    And did God's love for them involve giving them assurances that they would be with Him forever--not just temporarily?
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Adam and Eve, I think, were humans.
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Why is that obvious? That was not the case with Adam and Eve. Nor with Lucifer before he rebelled.
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Why is it important to you to have an assurance from God that you will be securely saved into eternity? God has demonstrated His love for us in that while we were sinners Christ died for us. Surely, today He deserves our love and service in return, whether we persevere faithful to Him or not...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Anyone who needs to have assurance that they will die saved before they can have peace, is making themselves an idol. Our focus should be Jesus Christ and how to please God. Focusing on ourselves and what pleases us and what serves our agenda, is idolatry. We have assurance that we have aeonous...
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    Why aren't the words " believe, believer, and believing " in italics in the English translation of scripture?

    Yes, pisteuO is an active response to being persuaded by the call of the Father. It is to act in accordance with the Father’s call to submit to His Son, acting in accordance with the teaching of Jesus and the implanted life of the Holy Spirit.
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    Why aren't the words " believe, believer, and believing " in italics in the English translation of scripture?

    As I see things - PisteuO is acting/behaving as someone who is persuaded. It is not merely mental assent, It is acting in accordance with that to which one has mentally assented. Pistis is a mental state of having been persuaded, as in “having faith in God". Or, also, the content of which one...