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God's desires are for salvation and faith in the truth ... for everyone. As you say, God also "desires" for every man to choose what he wants and doesn't want. "Just" rewards and "Just" punishments require a choice to be made. Punishing a 6-month-old baby, for dirtying a diaper, for example can...

Re your testimony, I always knew God, so I find it significant how our different paths merged. I sought to know whether atheism was true because of its claim to be scientific and objective, which I learned not to be true. There are people who have received a love of the truth so as to be saved...

Nope. Never apathetic about scripture. Sometimes when we condense things people miss where we are going, and why. Therefore, including just a bit more explanation clarifies why and how we got where we are. And here I thought your focus was on what the woman had done. Good clarification ... but...

When we start altering things from their most common meaning and make, "1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." and all the other passages about Jesus coming to save the world about Him only...

We don't have to like that God says Jesus and the bible are synonyms. It's His wording. I'm happy with that. Do I understand it? To some extent. "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." There is no salvation apart from hearing the word of God. There is no salvation apart from...

It "sounds like" we agree. But then, "when one's faith dwindles or dies out, it is that faith that is dead" Unbelief = results in disobedience (Tons of scriptures on this (Search on Love / commandments) = the judgment of God for true Christians (Reproof Heb. 12:6-8) = sickness, weakness or death...

The problem is a cart before the horse thing. We love, therefore we seek to figure out and obey. We love because we understand, and believe, the tremendous debt we owed, and the terrible price Jesus paid because of His great love for us while we were sinners and while we were still hostile...

Hmm. how did I disagree? Why did you include this in the point though? Mat 26:13 "Truly I say to you, wherever this gospel is preached in the whole world, what this woman has done shall also be spoken of in memory of her." And while Rom. 1:18-32 does cover God's revelation to all men...

Oddly, we can't come to salvation apart from Jesus. We can't come to salvation apart from the word of God. Both are referred to as being perfect, and the overlaps continue. Here's a commonly quoted passage that makes Jesus' judgment and the judgment of the word of God one and the same. While the...

Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 1Th 1:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come. 1Th 5:9 For God has not destined us for...

Hmm. I assume you mean all the people who choose to receive a love of the truth, as those that didn't get a "different" "leading" from God. 2Th. 2:10-11

You sir are a glutton for punishment. I sent you some pm's, We are thinking alike,.. again. I like the whole thing at once, and of course, as all my studies are, the one on salvation is a work in progress. I'd be happy to send you what I have. If you think it belongs in a thread, we can do that...

"Hebrews (12:4-11) indicates that divine wrath is intended as discipline..." I'm not sure I would say it is "wrath". Discipline is far better. A switch for the hind end. As my dad used to say, "Children often have a hard time hearing. It's because of wax build up in their ears. But...

If we miss the truth on the topic of saving faith, which is guaranteed if we make the wrong choice in 2Th. 2:10 we will perish and cannot even see the truth even if it is presented perfectly to us. 2Co. 4:3-4 We are guaranteed, with god's reinforcement, to believe lies are truth and the truth is...

Paul was a good guy. He just got them killed and sent them home to their Father. I messed with God's kids and destroyed their relationship with Him. Talk I deserve the hottest part of hell. I know if someone messed with my kids or wife, they'd hope to be able to take a break and go there for a...

I'd love to help any way I can. Having gone, keep on making disciples. Keep on baptizing the ones you make, and not only keep on teaching them how to get to the truth of all He commands, but keep on teaching them how to obey it as well. I spent almost 6 years hunting Christians, converting them...

LOL Sounds like the short summary I have on the topic of salvation. I was going to try and keep it under 10 pages. that was 34 pages ago. I'd be happy to read your whole thing through, and id also be happy to pm you my phone and email ... just think of the trouble we could get into together. LOL...

Interestingly, the "Knowing in part" statement is about the spiritual gift of knowledge, and in comparison to the "perfect" when it arrives, which will do away with the partial (Gifts), the gifts are childish things, and seeing dimly as through a beaten and polished piece of silver, verses the...

I love a lot of what you shared. Awesome. The key is the choice made in 2Th. 2:10 Make the wrong choice and you will "not be saved". You will "perish" 2Th. 2:10 which guarantees you cannot even see, let alone believe, the true gospel 2Co. 4:3-4 and you will receive a deluding influence to...