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  1. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Where does it say that a deacon should be debt free, I can only see “manages his household well”
  2. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Yes you are right in one regard it is not a binding criteria, for reasons you have pointed out, therefore we should be approaching these section with liberal exegesis and not prohibit woman and polygamists from office. This has been my point throughout this discussion.
  3. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    To be serious for a minute. I am not on here to start a debate, And flesh my cerebral muscles, Just to stroke my own ego. I sincerely would like to hear everyone’s points of view. It is 3am here can currently, But I would like to hear yours and everyone’s take on the subject
  4. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    At this point then, I consider the requirement of burden of proof to be on you, not me. I have said and I say again, “an overseer must be… the husband of one wife…” Can you refute this? What about the Ephesians mystery cults refutes my assertion?
  5. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    SWORDS
  6. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    So, what is your evidence from the "cultural context" that refutes my assertion? Because all you have said is there is a "cultural context" Please give me some citations. You could say that it says "a husband of [only] one wife." And I will say what is the cultural context by which you make...
  7. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well. 1 timothy 3:12 [Make] deacons each be the husband of one wife, [make them] manage their children and their own households well. “Let your waist be girded and your lamps burning; Luke 12:35 "[make]...
  8. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Sorry 2 peter 1:21, I am not infallible
  9. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Well, I am not the one taking my ball and going home. I made an assertion, "An overseer must be...the husband of one wife..." You have asked me what is the cultural context? I honestly am not sure what you mean. But if it is what I think you mean. I am not sure if it is even relevant. Because of...
  10. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Matthew 19:9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery. So, if sexual immorality is the only grounds for divorce, what about abuse?
  11. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Don't be a sore loser, I am asking you where the authority and meaning of scripture comes from? If something is said in scripture, and it is, meaning is change from outside of scripture, Why use scripture at all?
  12. Josepus86

    Biblical Polygamy?

    Polygamy, polygyny, polyandry, polyamory, I often use polygamy meaning polygyny, but it is an umbrella term that could mean all of them so I will try to say polygyny to be precise. I think we can agree that only polygyny was practiced in biblical times among God's people. The common belief is...
  13. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    R Ready for a curveball question? What is the only criteria Christ presents as grounds for divorce?
  14. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Where is "accountability partner" mentioned in the scripture? Again "An overseer must be... the husband of one wife." Let's stay on track, does the scripture say this?
  15. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    At this point I am going to start another conversation thread addressing biblical grounds for polygamy. But yet again, I am not arguing polygamy here just that Paul in Titus and 1 timothy presents and mandate to marry, I am saying that it says, "an overseer must be above, reproach, [must be]...
  16. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    No, you are not wrong. 10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of...
  17. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    I think we can agree that the scripture can say something, mean different, and be applied differently. For instance, the scripture commands, anyone who murders should be put to death, Saul murdered Christians, came to the faith, and was received by the church as an apostle, I think the letter...
  18. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Is what is happening in Ephesus and Crete, recorded in the Scripture? Truly, answer me?
  19. Josepus86

    A husband of one wife...

    Forgive me, but I am not seeing where we differ? I am that Titus and first Timothy mandate and officer to be married. No church applies this even orthodox tradition, that requires they be married at one time, allow widowers and I think divorcees. This is because such a command is very...