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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    As discussed, some writers interpret Jesus' comparison of the last days with the days of Noah and those taken as believers who are raptured and those left as unbelievers who will be judged. However if one reads the Luke version of those who are taken, Jesus says "the flood came and destroyed...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    Criswell - The context of the passage would seem to indicate that the judgment of Christ's return and not the rapture of the church is in view. The "one taken" (Mt 24:40, 41) is taken in judgment; the one remaining is blessed to enter with the Lord into kingdom blessings. Indeed, the rapture of...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    I looked it up on vines nt dictionary and Mounces interlinear. Does he have it wrong? Took them all away (142)(airo) literally refers to lifting or carrying something up or away (in this case the entire race except for Noah and his family - 8 souls left to multiply and repopulate planet earth)...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    Mounce; 39 andkai they knewginōskō nothingou untilheōs theho floodkataklysmos cameerchomai andkai tookairō them allhapas away, sohoutōs willeimi ·kai theho comingparousia of theho Sonhyios ofho Mananthrōpos be. 40 At that timetote twodyo men will beeimi inen theho fieldagros; one heis will be...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    So your suggestion is that the flood came and accepted them??? [ 7,,G3880, paralambano ] besides its meaning "to receive," denotes "to take to (or with) oneself," of "taking" a wife, e.g., Matthew 1:20, Matthew 1:24; of "taking" a person or persons with one, e.g., Matthew 2:13-Matthew 2:14...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    In the day of Noah, those taken were taken in judgment, they were taken away. Stop with your in the greek nonsense. 38 for as they were, in the days before the flood, eating, and drinking, marrying, and giving in marriage, till the day Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they did not know till the...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    Mt24:39 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    Thank you for your response. Your quotes about the word Apostasy while accurate do not make the case about the rapture.The events in Mt.24 took place by 70ad. Those events have taken place already. No rapture was involved. In the Parallel passage found in Luke it is clear... Luke17: 26 And as it...
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    Matthew 24:40 Is the rapture secret?

    This has nothing to do with the Rapture. Those" taken" are taken in judgment.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Some people have put forth the idea God gives men "partial grace". That is not enough to actually save them, but just make them savable. Then it is up to the man to save themselves. The truth is God in mercy saves His people from start to finish, as sin has alienated MEN FROM GOD
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Hello GWH, The concept of previent grace is not scriptural
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    it was from GWH...the last ten posts
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You cannot invent a god who does what you think He should do. God who is perfect in all His Holy attributes, has planned to save all he can, in His perfect and Holy wisdom and justice. He cannot save one more, or one less.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Do you understand what the bible reveals about the Fall into sin and death? From your post I would say You have missed it! You like many others seek to blame God for mans sin...it cannot happen my friend!
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Do you think you have a better plan than God? God is perfect in every way.
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    Understanding God’s election

    There is no debate. There is the truth of the doctrines of grace, and those who oppose the truth.
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    Do you believe I will never be of God's elect if I don't worship your view of God?

    Hello PH, Some truths are in the words of peter....hard to be understood.God's ways and thoughts are much higher than ours. However revealed truths are for us if we search the answers out.
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    Do you believe I will never be of God's elect if I don't worship your view of God?

    Having been born spiritually dead, in Adam, and living as enemies of God, and bound by their own sin they refuse to believe as they love sin, rather than God and His word. from the 1689 Confession of faith Paragraph 3 By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels...
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    Do you believe I will never be of God's elect if I don't worship your view of God?

    You do not worship anyone's "view of God". Believers worship the true and living God, by the Spirit giving them a new heart when they are born again, born from above. Jesus revealed this here: jn4 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men...