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What does that have to do with anything? Originally, you raised the point that "most" young adults are still living with their parents. I think you raised this in connection with your argument that it's unwise for "most" people to pursue marriage. But now you seem to doubt the idea that most...

A recent New York Times article says a "third." For example. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/08/realestate/a-third-of-young-adults-still-live-with-their-parents.html Oh, boy. Time for another tangent that has little to do with the purported subject of this thread.

I was asking you a question. You said that "Most young adults are still living with their parents," but you don't cite any evidence of that. Never mind. I don't want to sidetrack this discussion even further, haha.

Well, I will consider your wishes, haha. Oh. Alright then. You implied that my statistics were a "lie." And yet your only argument to advance that was a catchy and pithy quote.

So you don't actually know for sure whether it's a mistake for Christians to marry. And yet you seem to wish that every Christian would decide to not marry. Including singleness? :ROFL: That didn't address anything I just said.

And what if they are? Is their decision to get married still a dreadful mistake? And yet, even in their time of distress, Paul did not forbid the Corinthians from getting married. And some young adults are in fact, gaining independence, moving out, and getting married. Yes, some still live...

:LOL: So when Christians get married, it's because God determined that outcome? It wasn't a dreadful mistake on their part? This is true. But you seem to believe that every single marriage is like that.

Oh, no. The horror. That sounds utterly terrible and totally not worth it for anyone. Hahaha. A married man also has to serve his bosses and clients and take care of his wife and kids at home. And yet, people still desire marriage and get married. And yet, healthy marriages and happy families...

Oh, right. Even today, apparently? Why not let all the other Christians accept God's sovereignty then, instead of warning them away from the horrors or dating and marriage? Because it is. LOL.

And yet, this hasn't stopped millions of women throughout history from desiring marriage, getting married, and having children. What is going on? Have these women all been brainwashed into desiring the horrors of marriage, childbirth, and family? Hey, I agree! That sounds more reasonable. I...

Married sex is bad for women and exploitative, because some celebrities and influencers say so. Therefore, based on what these celebrities and influencers say, every Christian/person should stay single. Yeah, sure. OK. Once again, you didn't understand my question. Never mind. Sure, boss...

But they share it with you? Is that how you found out that people "slut-shame" married women for having sex with their husbands? I was asking you what you meant. Never mind. Then how do you know it's exploitative and something that no woman can honestly enjoy? Or is this just speculation on...

People "slut-shame" wives for having sex with their husbands? Yeah. Sure. I've never heard of such a thing, but that's just me. What do I know? And this is why sex is a taboo topic? Huh? Anything "unrelated" to "Jesus." Are those things all bad? You didn't answer my question. OK. Whatever.

A married woman would be "slut-shamed" for admitting the simple fact that sex with her husband can be pleasurable? Tell me, do you know of such an incident ever happing in real life? You seemed to suggest that if something's not directly related to Jesus, we shouldn't be doing it. Is that...

Hey, good point. Then why do you say things along the lines of "women can't enjoy sex"? Is that a "judgment" or no? What about other books? :ROFL: Oh. More likely. And if it doesn't go well. OK. That sounds more reasonable, actually.

Wait, I thought you said sex was all about a man selfishly coercing his wife into doing something that a woman can't possibly enjoy? Isn't that what you've argued here before? But now you say that it's "biblically commanded" and "inevitable" in marriage. So, if it's not something you can do...

No, I was responding to examples of bad marriages from the Bible that you brought up. OK? You can stay single if you want. Nothing wrong with that. Well, yeah. For example.

But...the negative examples are not the only examples of marriage in the Bible. Yes, but we're notin the Resurrection right now. Well, yeah. But it's not people's only concern, is it?

Oh. Those are the only examples we have in the Bible about desire and marriage?

What else does Paul say? Is that all he says?