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  1. Deuteronomy

    hiiii

    Hello Aaliyah (@liyahhhhh), welcome to CChat 👋:) I'm glad that you found us and joined in the discussions with us! As far as discussing Jesus, theology and different religious ideas/POV, I think that you'll enjoy this place because, well, that's mostly what we do here :giggle: God bless you...
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    OSAS, When does salvation take place?

    Hello again 2Christ, I certainly agree that our obedience (or the lack thereof) helps to reveal who we really are (true believers or make-believers), and that the quality and consistency of our obedience is a pretty good measure of where our daily walk is at. However, in what way/ways do you...
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    OSAS, When does salvation take place?

    Hello again 2Christ, in a practical sense, that's true, I suppose, but true obedience is only possible for those who have ~already~ come to know Him (as new creatures in Him .. 2 Corinthians 5:17). IOW, no established personal relationship with the Lord = no obedience to the Lord ... as the...
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    OSAS, When does salvation take place?

    P.S. - I believe that it's helpful to consider how He sees us, as His children, by adoption, IOW (and as "human beings", then, NOT as "human doings"), because who and what we are to Him, rather than what we do (or fail to do) for Him, is what I believe is most important to Him (just like it is...
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    OSAS, When does salvation take place?

    Hello 2Christ, I agree(y) Assurance can be a fleeting thing to be sure (and we should not "assume" anything, of course), but I believe that the Lord wants us to be certain of our salvation/that we are truly "in Christ", and that during our walk before/with Him ~in this life~! He commands us to...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    Hello HeIsHere, I think that it is reasonable to believe that certain Jews (who perhaps had family members or friends who had already become Christians) would choose to attend church to see for themselves what all the fuss was about. I think that it is also reasonable to assume that many of...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    Hello Aussie52, I used to believe what you do about this passage, but I do not believe that the people who are described here are Hebrew Christians, because those of us who truly become Christians all fall into a single category, yes, as those who do NOT reject/continue to reject the Lord Jesus...
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    Bible debaye

    One last thing to remember (@Yup) is that the "love" that God has for us (those of us who are, or who will become, His children, that is) is just like He is, from everlasting. IOW, He has always known you and loved you, and He always will :) He also knew everything about you, then, LONG before...
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    Bible debaye

    Hello @Yup, first off, since I see that you are a new member here, welcome to CChat 👋:) As far as "struggling" with sin goes, the key word in your OP for the true believer is found in that word, because that's what we do now, as Christians (even with every peccadillo or foible that we commit as...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    Hello Drich, the Apostle Paul was struggling with sin as a Hebrew Christian, but those described for us in Hebrews 10:26-27 were not because, unlike Paul, they were Hebrew ~almost~ Christians instead. While these folks had "received the knowledge of truth" about Jesus (IOW, they knew exactly...
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    Parable

    OK, let's try again. You refer to "the spirit" here. Who or what are you referring to when you say "the spirit", specifically :unsure: "The spirit is the word of Jesus". Again, what do you mean by that, specifically :unsure: How/in what manner can "the spirit" be understood to be "the word of...
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    Parable

    Hello Patrick, you quoted my post, but then chose, once again, to 1. talk about a wholly unrelated topic and 2. not answer the question that I asked you. Why :unsure:
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    Parable

    Hello again Patrick, you quoted my post (see Post #37 above), but you did not respond to any of the points that I made, nor the questions that I asked :confused: In fact, your reply, even if taken alone, is cryptic, at best. Assuming that by "spirit" (in your first sentence) you are referring...
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    Parable

    Hello Patrick, no one here believes that the Lord Jesus has ever/ever will lie. What we question is your understanding of what He said (and while it is a small point, but just to be clear, the words in Matthew 13:34 are Matthew's, not Jesus'). Matthew 13 34 All these things Jesus spoke to the...
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    Why does God allow bad things to happen to people and the world?

    Hello Rephidim, first off, since I see that you're a new member here, welcome to CChat :) As far as your question goes, what we often consider to be either "good" or "bad" for us is, indeed, a matter of perspective (as @Dino has already pointed out above). We "think" that we know, but our...
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    Parable

    Lastly, here is a nifty list of the parables of Jesus. I thought that it might prove to be helpful at some point in this thread (from our friends at GotQuestions.org). The Two Builders (Matthew 7:24–27; Luke 6:46–49) The Sprouting Seed (Mark 4:26–29) The Children of the Marketplace (Matthew...
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    Parable

    Hello Patrick, let me take a shot at this from a different angle. The Lord Jesus preached His Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5-7 and He said things like the following, “You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy., but I say to you, love your enemies and...
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    Parable

    Hello God-fearing, I agree with you, because the tendency (that I've seen) whenever we do this is to sink and bury the word of God (by which I mean God's intended meaning), and then (unintentionally) create a new one (with a meaning that God never intended) instead. IOW, rather than the word of...
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    Parable

    Now there is something that I definitely agree with :)(y)(y)
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    Parable

    Where does He say that? He certainly began to do that, and if memory serves, He not only did that, but He stopped performing miracles too (in the presence of the Jews who continually mocked and rejected Him, that is .. see Matthew 13), but where does Jesus or the Bible tell us that literally...