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30403 it is directly stated. Other than that it is implied when it is said man has 0% responsibility in the salvation process.

Christ is savior because he died on the cross so whosoever calls on his name can be saved. He gave us a way back to God that would of been impossible without his sacrifice. Grace an unmerited gift. For God so loved the world he GAVE his only begotten son. The grace which was that gift is...

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Say what? Repenting isint neccessary to be saved???

So we dont have to repent?

What i dont understand is the super deterministic group says they are predestined or chosen. They dont even have to repent. It wouldn't matter even if they did. They just go to heaven no matter what. Man has no responsibility in the salvation process.

You just woke up one day and were like that's weird I suddenly belive in God?

Then how did any of you hear it?

In the genealogies listed in Luke it calls Adam the son of God.

If you are created from the dust how.are you anyone's seed? Adam was the first human a new creation.

So after about 30k post here and 30k on the last one we have settled on.... you're a liar no you're a liar... well your a poopy head...

And we wonder what part of world you dont understand... I heard an anchient Greek manuscript say none only means some and Paul was only speaking to the unsaved Jews when he said that. 🙄🙄

Well it is late lol

That is the problem I have. 1) If you turn from your wicked ways I will be with you 2) if I restore you then you will turn from your wicked ways. I cannot get one from the other they are so far apart in thier meanings. That if either one was ment that is how they would be wrote. There is no...

I will have to look when its not a work night

When you read spirit do you think of holy ghost or soul?

I understand why people want to look at the Greek translations. However I dont speak Greek what would I even be looking at. I dont think the word of God is fooled by man's inability to translate. So imo what it means to me in my heart and mind is exactly what ot ment to a Greeks heart and mind...

Ok 2 chronicles 7¹⁴ for instance. What does the if mean to you

I dint actually quote a particular verse. Just asking a line of thought from you. What would the if mean to you when someone ask a question like that?

So for the sake of argument I'll ask a question. If you turn from your wicked ways I will be with you? What does the if register in your head as meaning? What does it trigger as a thought?