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I have heard that many times and I am basically in agreement. However when worded like Satan would not have killed Jesus had he known. I dont think he had a choice in what Jesus did or didnt do with his life. Take for instance when they were questioning him. What he said in Mark 14⁶²-⁶⁴ he was...

To try to say the bread is more important than the source of the bread. Playing off his hunger which is a fleshly issue. The "if" is strange since he knew who Jesus was. He was probably trying to temp his flesh in the form of hunger over rule who he was. It was a flesh vs God type of a...

I don't believe that is what I asked Jordon. See my quote above which was limited to three passages of scripture. What about you, sir: Do you believe what those three passages teach? I will always belive what the Bible teaches. I.will not always believe what a man thinks the Bible teaches

I guess I dont see how evil was restrained in your trump example. 2 people died one got his ear shot. The shooter died. People were tramatized ect ect. Please explain to me how restrained that evil was on that day?

Before I type know that that I haven't read much into the restraining spirt stuff. My basic understanding is that man's soul givin by God has that little peice of God still in it. Even a hardened gang banger on the streets of chichago knows you dont hit an old lady and steal her purse. Also how...

You forgot choice 4) a sinful human doing sinful stuff.

Is it called permissive will? Obviously God didnt want or make us fling chlorine gas at each other in 1917. He did however know we were going to and he did let us do it.

Which friend? The one who started this conversation? Because this conversation is about logical fallacies. Or are you again assuming im friends with the actual people who have called people calvinist?

Thats a fallacie of assumption. I have never called anyone in here a calvinist. Go back as far as you want. Why do you bear false witness against me by claiming I do?

How can you prove the commentator isint actually a calvinist? Misrepresentation goes both ways. Second how do you assume my friend is the one who keeps bringing it up? But the most important thing is in a poisoning the well fallacie the calling of one a Calvinist has to come before the argument...

Ok misrepresenting an opponents arguments to make them easier to attack. Misrepresenting is like time its relative to the observer. What if you argument is false? How am I misrepresenting it? What if its right and I am not understanding it properly? Or maybe I am really misrepresenting it...

How are things that dont exist easy to defeat? Asking for a friend

Could be. Im rather un-domesticated I've heard.

My desert was a grape i found in the floor haha

Call me weird if you will but I dont like the idea of walking around thinking im unperishable . I know Satan is around every bush just waiting to pounce. So if I believe I can fall away I am.always on the look out. In the marine corps infantry we had a saying. Compliancy kills.

That was weird how it responded I must have hit something different than

I guess my question would be why the warning of apostasy or falling away if it is impossible to fall away?

Rev 20¹⁵