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…3 Then a paralytic was brought to Him, carried by four men. 4Since they were unable to get to Jesus through the crowd, they uncovered the roof above Him, made an opening, and lowered the paralytic on his mat. 5When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are...

a). Though you appeal to LOGIC there is nothing LOGICAL about what you have said. Instead, everything you have said here falls into the category of CIRCULAR REASONING which is fallacious and contrary to the principles of logical reasoning. b). The dictionary, defines circular reasoning as a...

a). Our feelings about the correctness of a teaching do not what make it true or false. The only way we can determine the meaning is by using the laws of Hermeneutics. We must understand the words, language and context of what is written, comparing one scripture with related ones. b). 1...

a). So, if I am reading your post correctly, every individual person in every group that encountered either Jesus OR the Apostles was always healed; including even those who did not believe or ask for it. Is this REALLY your position? Please correct me if I am wrong about what you are saying but...

John William Fletcher wrote that there is a ditch on both sides of the road. I have found that those who fall into the ditch of extreme emotionalism often get burned out, reject all subjective experience and go to the opposite ditch of not accepting anything that is not logical and predictable...

Tell us what you think the GIFT of HEALING. Are the GIFTS OF HEALING (as you understand it) and PRAYING FOR HEALING mutually exclusive?

…3Then a paralytic was brought to Him, carried by four men. 4Since they were unable to get to Jesus through the crowd, they uncovered the roof above Him, made an opening, and lowered the paralytic on his mat. 5When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are...

I have another explanation for why the "roofs of Pentecostal Churches are always needing to be replaced" - the universal Law of Entropy. Things, always proceed towards disorder. I think this is far more reasonable than anything you have implied in this post. You know, it might be the reason why...

I was not implying that Jesus purpose was to "heal people for the sake of healing them" In fact, I am not even sure exactly what that means. I suppose, if you mean Jesus was on a mission to eliminate all the physical effects of the FALL then I would have to disagree about that too. Jesus'...

A. Continuationism is often defined as the proposition that the spiritual gifts are ONGOING. Let me clarify this, somewhat. My own belief that the gifts have not ceased does not mean I believe they ALWAYS occur with the same level of intensity and frequency. B. Indeed, when I read the...

I agree that calling Wesley a "charismatic" (in the modern sense) is anachronistic. Wesleyan pastor William Fletcher, said there is a ditch on both sides of the road and people who fall into one ditch tend to overreact by going into the opposite ditch. I have been through this myself.

When Lamar talks about empirical evidence I think he means something he himself can verify. However, this kind of evidence is not always available. In the Bible, observation of a an event by two or more witnesses confirmed a matter, at least, in a court of law. Even then the existence of FALSE...

When Lamar talks about empirical evidence I think he means something he himself can verify personally. However, that kind of evidence is not always available. In the Bible, observation of a an event by two or more witnesses confirmed a matter, at least, in a court of law. Even then, the...

From what I have gathered, Cessationists views are not all the same. Some seem very "hardline" while others seem less so. Different lists of "gifts" are mentioned in the Bible which seem to be in different categories. I tend to call the nine gifts Paul mentioned in 1 Corinthians the charismata...

Lamar insists that everyone here use his terminology. He used to characterize non-conformity to his demands as incomprehension. He seems unable to handle disagreement. The only reason he can come up with to explain this is that he must be so far above others intellectually and spiritually that...

True, sometimes God does everything directly through the exercise of His power. Other times He prefer working through representative agents whether they are angelic or human. These two ways of working are indeed different. I see no clear scriptural evidence that God has discontinued His policy...

(1) You start your diatribe by saying tbe issue at hand is NOT ABOUT THEOLOGY. I think it is obvious to anyone that the debate is primarily about theology. Instead, you make absurd comparisons like Continuationists are no different from people who believe in primative myths about the moon being...

The assumption here is that if ANY miraculous phenomenon CEASES we can use that scripture to prove Cessationism even when there is no reference to Cessationism in the passage? This is a loose and arbitrary way to interpret scripture. A "workman" who handled the text with no more specificity and...

Maybe everyone else but you is deaf. On the other hand perhaps you have not adequately clarified exactly WHAT you believe. I for one, do not belabor the point of whether the NT believers were healed by petitioning God in prayer or whether they were healed through some "gift of healing" which you...

Whenever we admit to being depressed, other Christians, trying to help, will ask what are you depressed about? If you say" I am not depressed about anything. I just am. They do not know what to say about this because they do not experience life that way. Spurgeon understood this when he referred...