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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    What MY point is and has been ever since we began this discussion that The Great Commission was never meant to be carried out by only the relatively small number of the original Apostles. Though it was initially given verbally to them, the Great Commission was intended to be GENERAL ORDERS for...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Is it such a strange thing for God to have us use prayer? Jesus said "“The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. THEREFORE PRAY the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.” (Matthew 9:37-38) It is because the harvest IS so vast that we need to pray since only...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I believe no one person or group of people could accomplish what He was asking. However, when seeds are planted and reproduce the harvest is multiplied exponentially. Jesus did not send only 12 workers into the field The need was far beyond what they could ever meet which is why He told them...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    One of the primary tasks of a disciple is to go out and train others to be disciples. Jesus told the original disciples: 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey all that I...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    1) So the purpose of God to witness to people and share the gospel with the world must be accomplished through appointed leaders and not even by EVERY leader but ONLY by the 12 specific leaders who Jesus originally recruited? 2). No wonder you have to alter the literal sense of the scriptures...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    True outpourings of the Spirit, or as we now refer to them "REVIVALS" are always accompanied by humbling ourselves and allowing our hearts to be searched by the Spirit of God. Too often, what we have is groups who attempt to reproduce the manifestations of a move of God. When I was a Church...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    …7 Jesus replied, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” 9 After He...
  8. J

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Don't you think the Commission was also meant to be carried out by the subsequent generations of believers who came after the Apostles? I mean the Apostles never completed this worldwide mission in their lifetimes.
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Let me turn this proposition back to you. Do you think that when Jesus came he wanted to heal every last diseased, disordered and disabled person in Israel? If He had wanted to do that don't you think He could have done so? Also, if he had wanted to lead his followers on such a universal...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Exactly. People not only want to be whole but are often desperate to be free of their afflictions. Instead of listening to them and assuming the burden of an Intercessor, teachers of the word often dismiss their suffering as secondary to winning theological arguments. It seems they are so...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Okay, but the text implies He would have done much more had the people not questioned and doubted Him. The Bible says that we humans are able QUENCH, GRIEVE and HARDEN our hearts against the Holy Spirit which hinders and, at times, halts what God is trying to do. This was the reason Israel could...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I have a mental illness which has been shown not to be due to Satan or from life experiences. Instead, the course and development seems come primarily from genetics. We have all been affected by the Fall.
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Did He really heal anyone at any time? The Bible says that …57 And they (those who were from His hometown) took offense at Him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own household is a prophet without honor.” 58 And He did not do many miracles there, because of their...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I would hate to be in the position of telling some desperate person "No I am sorry. I cant pray for you" Nor would I tell them that I had no more faith that their petition was going to be answered than I would expect a WISH to be fulfilled if I dropped s penny in a wishing well. Some people have...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I agree I don't think any godly believer would claim to be able to heal anyone at anytime. Christ did not have that kind of independent power in His human form and I certainly do not think we do. He always depended on the Father. Miracles are God's work - not ours. While we can be USED by God we...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I have seen this taught in "Word of Faith Churches" who believe that faith entails denying the existence of real sickness and medical disorders. Faith, essentially, means denial. As a result, they often discontinue their medications and treatment with disastrous results. I remember how, many...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    'Skandalizo' can also mean falling temporarily not falling forever
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    (A). You said: God no longer uses healers and miracle workers today. He still performs healings and miracles in answer to prayer. What if the one who prays for the sick person has already prayed about it. OR what if the one God sends to pray has a word from God saying that the one they are going...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Jesus did not always heal everyone in His audience. You have vastly over-extended Matthew‬ ‭12‬:‭15‬ to include every person on every occasion. What makes you think God has to always heal everyone? As far as I can tell every healing is individually gift-wrapped to maximize the impact on the...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Matthew reported that Jesus, on that occasion, healed all those who were following Him seeking His help. However, He did not ALWAYS heal EVERYONE. At least once, the Bible said this: 54 Coming to His hometown, He [Jesus] taught the people in their synagogue, and they were astonished. “Where did...