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Just for clarity, and since scripture can't and doesn't contradict or supersede scripture, both must be correct; in the name of Jesus Christ and in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. So, if they both are right, how so? It's simple: both mean by the authority of. No...

John 1 29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to...

Except that John didn't know Jesus was the Christ when he began baptizing people. Yes, that they should believe on someone else that would come after, but the baptism wasn't predicated upon that. It wasn't based on belief kn the name and authority of Jesus as the Christ, unlike the gospel...

Another thing to keep in mind regarding the difference between John's baptism and baptism into Christ (NT post his death) is that John's baptism was not based upon belief in Christ; simply, it was "the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins" (Mk1:4). The NT baptism is preceded by belief...

They are too dumb to waste time on

You obviously don't understand the difference in OT abd NT as explained by Hebrews 9. And you can try yo explain away the clear words of scripture by citing all your nonsense based upon other nonsense, but it ain't gonna work.

Yes, I, the poster you mentioned above, do absolutely mean what you cited; that baptism as part of salvation, didn't come into play until after the death of Christ, consistent with the Hebrews passage i quoted, and for very obvious reasons, i.e., you couldn't be baptized into Christ, his death...

Baptism is as much of a requirement of salvation as belief and repentance. Belief obviously is first, but that doesn't negate other requirements such as Baptism, repentance, or confession of your belief as also the Ethiopian did. 1 Peter 3:21 says baptism DOES save us.

The thief was forgiven by Christ as he forgave others while alive, under the OT! Baptism wasn't a requirement of salvation until Christ died, at which poitgd NT began. Read Hebrews 9:16-17 16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17For a testament...

Yeah, sure. One more question for you: so how do you know that you are truely one of the chosen from the foundation of the world? Is it your gut that tells you? Does God whisper in your ear? Do toy just somehow know, is everyone on this board one of the chosen? How exactly do you know?

Yes, it's a real stretch and an unscriptural one as well, to assume that words like "household" or "all that were in his house", etc, included infants or young children. Cornelius is the only example wherein the others are mentioned at all, and those mentioned were servants and a soldier. The...

Yes, negative, very negative.

I can't even comment on your response

So, according to you, those Jesus chose before the foundation of the world don't have to do anything at all to be saved, right?

So, no one has to do anything at all and the free gift was given to everyone, everywhere, automatically?

BAPTISM Necessity or option? Baptism is required in order to: · Be saved Mark 16:16 “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved” 1st Peter 3:20/21 “Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing...

You don't understand the difference between the indwelling of the Spirit versus the falling of the Spirit. When the Spirit fell on the 11 in Acts 2 and on Cornelius in Acts 10, that was a manifestation of the Spirit and not the same as the receiving the gift of the Spirit itself, the indwelling...

Looney as usual

Firstly, to whom was the Ephesian letter written? My take on the Ephesians letter in general, is that it was written to them specifically, as were the other letters similarly written specifically to the respective entities as were addressed, i.e. Corinthians, Romans, Galatians, Hebrews...

The indwelling of the Spirit (Acts 2:38) and the baptism by the Spirit (Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, Acts 2:2-4, Acts 10:44) are not the same thing. All baptized into Christ receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts2:38), the indwelling of the Spirit, which is different than the falling of the Holy Ghost...