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I did get the message. I apologized. Now you want to harp on it and derail the discussion. Why do you feel the need to do that? You're only leading me to believe that you have no idea what we're talking about.

I'm seriously doubting that. Excuses are what people use who don't have anything to contribute.

I'm talking to you because you're the one who insists on bringing it up. Do you have anything else to contribute to the discussion that's worth listening to?

I'm sorry if you were offended when I became human for a moment out of frustration.

And so it was meant to be. We were all created to learn, think, experience, and perceive things differently to help fulfill the overall plan.

No, the difference between you and I and the reason it circles is because you're not defending ALL of the scriptures. You're only trying to defend one Apostle's version of it. One that was geared toward preaching to the Gentiles and not the Jews.

Ditto. Your whole objection here is just to try and duct-tape YOUR version of prophecy. Not every Jew's blindness will lift until the fountain is opened up in the house of David like Zechariah 13:1 says. It happens when Jesus returns to cut off the idols, sin, and uncleanliness from the house...

I agree with most of that. I guess at this point the only differences we have is whether the dead Israel is restored during the Millennial period or afterwards.

Funny how you're still leaving out an explanation for the meaning of the "fullness of the Gentiles coming in". The grafting back in doesn't happen until their blindness and hardening is lifted. The reason the Jews are blinded is because God/Jesus needs them to be in order to fulfill the entire...

The "remnant" in Romans 11:5 is referring to the people mentioned immediately before it! Let's read it together. Romans 11:4-5 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this...

LOL! The blindness doesn't lift until God/Jesus lifts it at His return, which is why they all mourn when He returns. You need to reconsider what the "fullness of the Gentiles" means. It's not a description for ingathering when the Gentiles are the only ones mentioned. Here's how the Bible...

I'm not making a category mistake. Paul told you that the Jews are temporarily blinded until the FULLNESS OF THE GENTILES comes in. That won't happen until the Word has been preached throughout the entire rest of the world. Once it has, Jesus will reveal Himself to the Jews and graft a...

I call B.S. on your worthless response. Just because believers consider the unity already real, doesn't mean unbelieving Jews consider the wall broken down and until they become a believer. If I didn't know better, I'd think you're just trying to deflect from giving a meaningful response to...

Then you need to point me back to what you're talking about. In the meanwhile, I don't think you took what I said in context with the rest of what I was saying. While existing believers are considered ALL IN CHRIST, not everyone becomes believers at the same time. Until they become a...

You need to communicate better. When you make comments like these, you need to EXPLAIN how that is.

In your view, how does Isaiah 49 fit into the total scheme of things and the timeline?

Like I said before, you're looking at Matthew 24 backwards. Those verses tell you that it was the evil people who were "swept away" with the flood and removed from the earth. You were confused based on the language on who was actually being swept away. You thought it was Noah as the righteous...

So, as a general note to this thread, how do we see "prophetic telescoping" happening in Revelation 19? I don't think we can just assume that the "remnant" is slain by the word of His mouth at the same time as the earthly kings and captains because of verse 15. Revelation 19:15 - And out of...

This reminds me of all of the previous discussions that we all had about who the ones are that are plucked up and which ones remain? In every case, the evil ones were the ones removed physically from the earth, for a new righteous style of life to start over again here. The same holds true in...

When Jesus returns to earth as "King of Kings AND Lord of Lords" for battle in order to become King over all the earth like Zechariah 14:9 shows us, I can't help but believe that He stays on the earth because of how everything is written in Zechariah 13, specifically verses 8 and 9. If Jesus...