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I'd love to say that the Bible reveals everything plainly, but it clearly doesn't. This goes back to what I told you once before, if it was that easy, we would all read His word once and probably only refer back to it when we think we may have forgotten something. At least this way, it keeps...

Good Morning, OMC! Good to hear from you! I know you feel this way, but I still don't see it that way. When the Bible goes as far as to say the elements themselves will burn and dissolve in 2 Peter 3:10, I take that literally. You do a good job of describing how you think everything is...

You're going to have to be more direct because I've read and know all of these verses, but what I can't see is how you understand them. You need to use your own words to just tell me what you think I'm getting wrong. Please describe in your own words how you see the transition between the...

Alright, I think I'm finally starting to get it! (y) The Millennial Kingdom period takes place with Jesus ruling over it from Heaven while Israel is technically being led by a Davidic prince on the new earth for 1,000 years growing in number and repopulating before Heaven comes down to them...

So, when you say, "near the end of the book, Ezekiel begins to see the framing of the heavenly city and it's temple where the Messiah would enter" there is no temple in the New Jerusalem. Revelation 21 and 22 tells us that God/Jesus are the temple and the light of the city, so any actual...

Sorry, but nothing you said made sense to me. Please clarify what you mean when you say that it "clearly points to the final restoration, not a temporary kingdom before it"? How can the restoration of earth be final if the permanent state of heaven (the New Jerusalem) has to descend down from...

In my response, I never said that Abraham had to leave the heavenly city, but Zechariah 14:5 and Jude 1:14-15 implies that he might. Like I said, we may not be seeing Abraham until the heavenly city comes down from heaven to join the earth. Your interpretation that Zechariah 2 as only symbolic...

Well, I couldn't reconcile the possibility of a Millennial Kingdom going on in Heaven at the same time that it's going on in the earth. Everything I look at points me back to the earth. As for the Bible verses showing that Abraham looked forward to the heavenly Jerusalem in Hebrews 11:10, he...

I think the reason all of us are having differences of opinions is because the Bible describes the Millennial Kingdom in both an earthly and a heavenly way to such a point that it's giving me whiplash. But Revelation, chapter 7, is a scene of who comes out of the tribulation. It says that the...

Good answer! Lots of food for thought! When you mention the 144,000 that have been redeemed from the earth, doesn't the Bible show them back on the earth? Revelation 7:3: States the seal is placed on them "on the earth" to protect them from the coming judgments. Revelation 14:1: Places them...

Ahhh, this discussion is getting good! I love it! I know you don't believe in an earthly Millennial Kingdom period, but what if the saints who were brought out of their graves and their "bodies" walked through Jerusalem in Matthew 27 were they're actual physical bodies and not their...

The reason the prophetic books are so hard to decipher is because all of them speak of near future and events and far future events all in the same chapter. It's called "prophetic telescoping". Many prophecies have a double fulfillment where history will repeat itself, but on a much larger...

I'm not sure you specifically answered Psalm1's question. Are you just generally saying that Israel should be considered under "Great Tribulation" until Jesus returns to earth, including the seal and bowl judgements in the future? Do you acknowledge that seal and bowl judgements are future events?

Wow, there's no much to unpack in those first 4 verses of 2 Samuel 23:1-4! It's never ending! 1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said, 2 The Spirit of...

I can totally relate to the GPS experience. I lived a pretty carefree life throughout my 20's and took a detour from the GPS. Even though I knew God/Jesus and prayed to Him regularly, I couldn't understand why my prayers weren't being answered. During this same time, I noticed that a...

Since a lot of those verses don't prove that the living who enter the Millennial Kingdom are those of flesh, I asked my Brave Search Assistant to make a clarification and here is what it gave me: You're right to press this. Several of those verses are ambiguous about body type — they could...

Good morning, OMC! Looking forward to picking up where we left off, even if we can't come to any definite conclusions! 😁 I've been thinking a lot about the differences between Revelation 19 and Revelation 20. Revelation 19 tells us that only the Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into...

How can I ask you questions before you give me an answer? I think you're struggling to give me an answer quite frankly, which is a good sign, because it might mean that the scriptures that I shared with you earlier may slowly be sinking in for you to think over before you respond.

The irony I was seeing was Psalm1 using post-trib related scripture to argue for a pre-trib rapture.

You are absolutely hilarious! Look at verse 39 again. It absolutely used the word, "took". As in "and took them all away".