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But the abomination of desolation stops the animal sacrifices, and Jesus' death did not do that. They continued on after His death for like 40 years? What about that? And if the abomination of desolation is already past, why hasnt Jesus returned yet? The AoD is tied to the final generation of...

Relative peace, but if you read the book of Revelation it doesn't paint a pretty picture for either half. Read Revelation 11 and 13 and tell me your opinion. The two witnesses sending plagues doesn't sound very peaceful, them being killed doesn't sound peaceful and then the beast reigning and...

The apostles were taught by Jesus for 40 days about the kingdom prior to the ascension and they asked him: Acts 1:6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” Clearly they still expected an actual kingdom for Israel. Just...

Sure; I have no opinion I believe exactly how it is written in Revelation 20, in that chronology. In Revelation 19 Jesus returns and throws the beast and the false prophet into the lake of fire, in chapter 20 the devil is bound for a thousand years, the righteous dead are raised and rule with...

But the Jews have regained control of Jerusalem already?

Yeah if you look up what the SDA church believes it is precisely in that order as he laid out. I am not sure if he is one, but he has bought that explanation for sure. I wouldn't have a problem with it unless it reversed the order of events in Rev 20. They have the resurrection occuring and...

I see Isaiah 24:22 as a mini Revelation 20. The shut up in prison part is clearly the abyss into which they are locked in during the millennium, and after many days is after the millennium as you suggested, it is the GWT judgment when they will be judged.

That leads me to my follow up question, now that the times of the gentiles have been fulfilled in the sense that jews are in control of Jerusalem, what age are we in now?

I know this is the adventist pattern but the chronology is not the one laid out in the Bible. The destruction of the wicked occurs first in Rev 20, THEN there is a resurrection.

That is why this debate is such a waste of time. The Bible teaches predestination, but we don't have to know how it all works out. What benefit is there in knowing the inner workings of God, other than to fuel our curiosity and to have something to debate about?

Revelation 20, I highlighted the part I am talking about. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are...

Sounds like Adventist doctrine. Who rebels at the end of the millennium if its in heaven?

I agree it is clearly a requirement. Great information about the 2500 years you provided! Thanks. May I copy and use this?

The devil being bound currently is a very hard thing to convince someone of. Especially when in the same book of Revelation the devil is deceiving the whole earth in chapter 12. A great way to disprove amill theology is to look at the abyss and how it works in the book of Revelation. The...

The devil being bound currently is a very hard thing to convince someone of. Especially when in the same book of Revelation the devil is deceiving the whole earth in chapter 12. A great way to disprove amill theology is to look at the abyss and how it works in the book of Revelation. The...

You are free to give your view on it but I am inclined to agree with you. I googled this concept and I agree with it. God's sovereign will seems to decree things like murder and selling someone to slavery but His moral will prohibits both of these actions. Strange, but I believe the best way...

I voted for Arminianism because it seems to be the plain meaning of the text. You just read through the Bible and it seems like God knows the future but many times His will is rejected by the people and He commands the people to repent and turn which means He did not predestine everything that...

Any verse for the "before the foundation of the world?" Ephesians 1:4 does not say you were chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world. Let me quote the verse: "For he chose us IN HIM before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love " Bolded the key...

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Completely agree with what you wrote. Got to love the ones who complain about Matthew 28:19-20 being added or changed by the RCC, yet they go on to quote Acts 2:38 as if it has any authority when they just claimed the Bible has been edited by the catholics. What if they changed the Acts 2:38...