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So you are saying the bride and the guests are indeed the same thing with a different metaphor? WOW. Do words have meaning at all? There you go. Maybe you SHOULD consider that big bad dispensationalism to make some sense out of the Bible. Cause currently what you are saying doesnt make any...

But this has nothing to do with dispensationalism. The text itself says you have the bride in heaven, returning with Jesus, and then there are also wedding guests. Right there in Revelation 19.

I did and you right it should be taught in every congregation. It also helps explain why in Revelation 19 you have the wedding GUESTS, who are clearly not the bride. So we come from the chambers in public at the second coming. Ive never heard of a bride being a guest to her own wedding, how...

Exactly, we arent inventing the grid, the grid is there in the Bible and if you dont see it you end up with an eschatology where a lot of verses DONT FIT ANYWHERE, as i said earlier: Where does Isaiah 11 land at with the amillennial view? When does Zechariah 14 get fulfilled? And one thing I...

Yes very well laid out. This convinced me of the pre-trib view among many other arguments like Zechariah 14:4, how come the Jews arent raptured if they are saved? Its the second coming when the rapture happens according to posties? Could it be because the rapture already took place earlier and...

Do you honestly believe the first resurrection is first in number? Jesus was already resurrected, as were other people after Him. Then there are the two witnesses resurrected. So there has already been multiple people resurrected before the "first resurrection" so the word first has to do with...

Think about what would happen if the righteous and the unrighteous were resurrected at the same time. How would that look like? Glorified believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the air and simultaenously the dead wicked are rising but NOT caught up? Or are they also caught up? Then they...

There were some people in the 1800s and even earlier some Puritans who believed that Israel will return to the Land prior to the return of our Lord and that required a lot of faith to believe back then, but they saw it in the Scriptures and here we are, its fulfilled. Another interesting bit...

The Bible says there is one new man IN CHRIST, yes. But the "body of Christ" is completed at the catching up of the bride to heaven. After which the believers who are saved in the time of Jacob's trouble are not part of the body of Christ. They are saved, but its different, just like the old...

That is standard amillennial doctrine but Revelation 12 says satan is indeed deceiving the nations and you must only pick up a newspaper to see this to be the case. Lots of problems with that view but to name a few: -So satan is simultaneously deceiving the whole world, the whole world lieth...

No no no. The ekklesia in the wilderness is not the new covenant Church. Jesus said I WILL (future tense) build my Church. That didn't start until Pentecost. This is something new, not something that was already there in the OT.

If this is how it works why does Paul constantly warn and exhort the Spirit dwelled believers he writes letters to?

Is the Church an enemy of the Gospel? Is the Church partially blinded? Is the Church yet to welcome the Lord?

Believe it or not but I didnt even know that what is called "supercessionism" or "replacement theology" even existed when I first believed in Jesus. I grew up in a Lutheran country and Israel was just never really spoken of so you cant say I was brainwashed by some dispensationalist churches, I...

I want to ask you about Luke 21:24. It has been in my thoughts as of late. Has the time of the gentiles already ended or not? You could argue yes because Jews are back in the land, or you could argue no because they don't control the temple mount yet, Jordan does.

I believed in the pre-trib rapture when I got saved, it played a big part in me getting saved. Then I left that teaching for a while and have since returned to my first love so to speak.

It happened with Antiochus before Jesus and it happened after Jesus' resurrection when the Roman armies surrounded Jerusalem: Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. They were scattered and now we are living in the times...

But if you have noticed, the trampling did not stop at AD70. It has continued on for centuries. I cosign on the switch to the new covenant.

Alright so when is the times of the gentiles fulfilled? It says the Jews are scattered UNTIL that time occurs. Isn't it occuring now when they are returning? Or maybe it is talking about the second coming, the ultimate regathering of all God's people.

BEFORE AD70? But its talking about what happened after AD70, when the Jews were led away captive at that point right?