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If has a meaning. So they do mean something or that's not how God would of inspired them to write it.

I guess my question to you in this discussion is .. what do all the "ifs" mean to you. If you follow, if you cast away, if you believe, if you choose. what do those ifs mean to you?

He gave himself on the cross. Without that no one whould be saved. What we do with that sacrafice takes nothing away from the fact... That without it no one would be saved.

Jesus is lord and savior as long as we agree on that we will meet in the same place one day.

Arnt the men version wizzards? Or warlocks. Got to be up to date on your gender terminology haha

I dont go that hard in that direction. I know God gave us souls. Even evil people like Manson had a soul. And that soul which is of God is what gives every man woman and child (age of understanding) the very basic part neccessary to reject or receive the gospel. Those who receive it and rejoice...

And some believe he only exerts it on the chosen.

So it will take direct divine intervention in order for that to happen. Haha

If I've learned anything here over the years... context is relative to the observer. Lol

Think we will ever universally agree to which one is the correct one.

I would think that it would have to mean the sins of this world then. Because that is where they have to be cleansed in order to make it to the next. Thats just me anyways. To me the Bible was written for the church in the church age. What ever happens in the next world is a result of your...

Trying to figure out the differnt reactions. The bar comes up but is empty. So you have to click out of memory and hope you get the right one.

Ok I can see that line of reasoning. So does that mean the "whole world" in that John verse was this world or Jesus's kingdom? Because if they are the same then it would mean the "whole world" is our world John is talking about.

You said the world from the John verse quoted was the final world or next world. So I am asking why you think it is that world in view. Since Jesus was sent into this world and this age. Why would this world not be the one in view in that verse.

Ok so why would the sins of the whole world be the ones from Jesus's kingdom? If that world is the one in view? Why would it not be our world? The world he was sent into?

Believe it or not Rufus I dont mind responding to you when you are acting civilized. Which isint too often.

So are you saying the world in 1john2¹-² is the world of the millennium or the finial world? Now there's like 14 definitions of the word world in 3 dimensions of time past present and future? Is that like 42 different worlds to choose from? At this point I can't keep up lol.

Have you considered after the 30th time no one has awnsered you that maybe they just dont want to talk to you any more???? But yet you think it's because you asked such a profound question...

People.on here who use those kind of insults do it for no other reason than they know it irritates the other person. Or they think it does. I've got into a few times on here im sure we all have. The last 2 that I remember I actually felt like dirty inside and repented. Thats not how Jesus wants...

Maybe you can point out all the humbles in the last 20 pages or so. Just a bunch of insults and personal attacks.