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Jesus was not Jew, his mother was, and his father, but Jesus was born of a holy incarnation, a Jewish minister born a Jew told me that.

It sounds like Catholicism, to me, maybe a good excuse for the pope to feal he should be the next rock, I go with the elect is the spirit that lives in you.

Oh I get it, this is a dig at false doctrine, I was falling asleep,

God can see into the future, yes, but we still have to choose don't we.

has anyone received conditional election, ? I'm confused.

I think the Pharisees Jesus was referring to, where the the leaders of the synagogue's, who were on his back trying to trip Jesus up, With debates, and the scribes where possibly the people who were writing those debates down, quite possibly even favouring the pharisees who were trying to trip...

God can see the future to. So he knew when he gave the commandment to Adam and Eve, the desire to lust was already there, as it was for Satan, so the world had already fallen befor Satan had entered the Garden is how I Feel, back to my hobnobs now, byeeeeeeeeeee 💖

I would rather notice some of my hobnobs at the moment hmmmm.

it could be a muffin Mary day,

Yes 💖 I believe we have citizenship in heaven right now to, I also have a feeling God knew the fall would happen in the Garden befor it happend, because of the othe commandment he Gave to eve. The world had already fallen when Satan was cast to earth, So I kinda think the fallen earth all...

I kinda figured several post ago, this is what you ment by the term, unGodly elect. But where only chosen for adoption if we choose to Believe, If I'm now understanding your op, it's all about you explaining, what you mean by who Justifies the ungodly, I'm still having a hard time accepting...

What freedom is there in a fallen world, for those who don't accept Christ, or God's word, where can anyone Go in this world until they accept Christ, other than this world,

QUOTE]It does not get any more simple than this, I think its so easy to see departure , the problem arises when we think with our carnal mind, the departure being disassociation of the spirit untill we commune. Maybe it's a vacant spell we all have , when we do not commune in prayer, our carnal...

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Here is what God tells us: Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die ... 1 Timothy 2:4 Who [God] will have all men to be...

I have read about that but that may be something to do with orbit periods, a natural cycle, to do with rotational cycle around the sun, where by in a certain cycle the forces of gravity are so reversed that this immediately flips the earth, there is evidence of it happening already. My belief...

I have a feeling our earth is losing its magnetic energy, because of lack of rain fall all over the earth, I believe the energy we take out of the ground fuels our earth and strengthens the earths magnetic energy, and mankind has took to much of the earth's energy. The rain will always rise up...

edit I quoted the wrong post above, I'm sorry friend this is no reason to justify your own mistake of calling the ungodly elect. Ungodly and being a sinner may imply the same definition, to you, but not me, would God justify me claiming false hoods on you, it's ok to make a mistake, but you...

it sounds like your justifying your own faith, sorry friend but this is no reason for calling the ungodly elect

I'm happy again thankyou.