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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    So, while we're sealed and shielded from the seal and bowl judgements, we just have to worry about being martyred by way of the Beast? Honestly, at this point, a nuke option sounds good. The quicker the better. LOL!
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Here's something I find ironic about our conversation with Psalm1. When I chose to use A.I. to tell me based on all of the scriptures combined, which was the most likely to happen, it tells me that the Matthew 24 argument is used to support a POST tribulation rapture! LOL! Here are the...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    I think part of the problem is that when I first watched the Left Behind series 47 years ago, it was showing this exact scene of people being plucked up for the sake of salvation and a pre-trib rapture. I've spent many hours and days searching the scriptures for whether there's going to be a...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Unfortunately, that's not how those verses in Matthew 24 read. Matthew 24:38-39 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Where's the facepalm emoji when you need it? Verse Genesis 19:23 tells you that Lot went to Zoar to be spared. Zoar is on the earth. Lot was not REMOVED FROM THE EARTH the people who died in Sodom and Gomorrah were removed from the earth when they died in the fire. This whole conversation is...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Ha! That would require you to go back and read that long post I made with scripture that you refused to read. Are you sure you want to do that?
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    How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

    I think we can already guess that he'll point to the verses where Jesus said that His father was greater than he was. The only thing Godsgood hasn't considered is the reasoning for why Jesus would say that. Jesus came as God incarnate in human flesh and all human flesh is considered lesser...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    No, what we was pointing out to you is that NEITHER Lot or Noah were the ones removed from the earth, the rest of the people in Sodom & Gomorrah were the ones being removed from the earth. A rapture is an event where people are removed from the earth. Two separate events. Two different ways...
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    How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

    So, how do you reconcile all of that with what Jesus said in John 14:7-9, John 8:19 and all of the verses I've already given you in my previous post below? You don't believe in the Trinity of God? While there is only one throne in Heaven, Revelation 22:1 & 3 shows you that Jesus sits on the...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    LOL! This is a prime example of how you didn't understand one word in OMC's post there. OMC is telling you the DIFFERENCE between a judgement event and a rapture event and you read it all as the same rapture event.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    LOL! You're the ONLY one who's ever mentioned "half the world" with your 50/50 talk throughout every conversation. I'm only allergic to your one word, two word, and 50/50 answers. It's time for me to bow out and move on to a productive conversation where people understand what's being...
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    End of Days

    Revelation’s own sequence is: present age with tribulation, Satan bound from deceiving the nations as before, souls reigning with Christ, Satan released, final rebellion, then Christ’s return, judgment, and the new creation. The “millennium” in Revelation 20 is that intermediate, gospel age seen...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    It sounds as if you're afraid to say where this subgroup comes from.
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    End of Days

    I think you need to read your own response over again here because it sounds like you're saying that Satan is given limited ability to deceive people in HEAVEN unlike while were on the earth. The Bible makes it clear that the 1,000 years of peace will be a time ON EARTH when there will be no...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Only because you didn't want to read the scriptures I posted. You're not interested in what the Bible says, you only want to protect your belief and doctrine, just as you accuse the rest of us of doing.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    So, in your view, who is the "group" that the half are taken out of?
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    End of Days

    Really? You want to call the 1,000 year reign of PEACE with Christ as the world we're living in today? Only because Satan hasn't been given his full power yet? The Bible says that Satan will be thrown into the Abyss during that 1,000 years, so he's not able to influence people at all. How do...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    If you had read my entire post, you would know that's not true. But I'm still not convinced that you understand what you're reading in the Bible or in my responses.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    NOBODY is changing the Bible. It's all just a matter of interpretation, and if you do some research on this particular topic, there is much debate that has never come to a definite conclusion.