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And you would not need "research" or "2 or 3 witnesses" to believe the Pentecostal claims of ongoing physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit. We are not on a "remote island" void of the ability to sense such claims. Your silly excuses as to why people can not see or reject...

I have to agree. What does this have to do with the issue of the claims being ongoing?

The claims of ongoing physical supernatural manifestations do not need your experiences to be assured. This is the fundamental flaw in the Pentecostal Movement. Example: The claims of heavier than air flight do not need to be proven by personal experiences or physics textbooks. The claim is...

The Bible did not mature into what it is today? Really?

Fair enough. Sometimes. and Certainly not.

Is the lack of prima facie predicated upon unbelief? Be honest.

If the supernatural tongues of the New Testament were going on today, this debate would not be happening. The need to defend its existence beyond prima facie is all that needs to be said. The Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement is a farce. It is truly absurd. This is real New Testament tongues...

Very well said.

By no means. I received the Holy Spirit when I was immersed for the remission of my sins. I am simply saying that there is no reason to believe the claims of Pentecostals of physical, supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit. They are just stories without substance. Correct but my desire...

Well said. Jesus did. Luke 6:6-11 Pentecostals, Charismatics and their sort. Nothing.

Regardless of what is mentioned in the Bible, if the claims are false then the claimant is false. Would you not agree?

I believe the key word in the sentence you are quoting is "continuing". There is little in scripture to support the existence of the miraculous continuing without the prima facie that was shown in the New Testament. IOW, Jesus, Peter and Paul presented physical supernatural phenomena...

Nedsk is using the word "justified" to mean saved, that is all. It is you who is emotional and making a mountain out of a anthill. Certain bibles use different words in place of justified in James 2:24 such as: You see that a person is declared righteous because of actions and not because of...

Faith Alone Regeneration Theology is very much a followed narrative throughout Evangelical groups. Universalism, which I am assuming you support is a very, very small minority.

This is not an attempt to defend Nedsk but your threshold for labeling something as "lying to my face" and gaslighting me" is absurd. Are you really this thin-skinned? For many justified and saved are synonymous. A quick search of synonyms for justified will yield such words as: validated...

What a weak strawman you have created. The argument is simply: "we must wait until the Book of Life is opened to know if we're saved". "because we might fall away" is your attempt at mudding the water. Is this a real quote or did you make it up? Please cite.

I think he was being facetious. Some here are implying that they are sheep and they can prove it by injecting themselves into the pronouns of the passages. No evidence of being a sheep, just because. And because they claim to be sheep they now know their fate before the Book of Life is even...

Poppycock, I made no such statement. Anyone can "claim" anything in the Bible but the claim is meaningless unless the claim can be proven which in this case (knowing that our name will be in the opening of the Book of Life) simply cannot. IOW, we do not know our individual fate. The "rules of...

Your self-assumption is beyond the pale. So you know the tests that God has set before you and have passed them? So you insist that God has labeled you "a good and faithful servant". Such hubris. Since you don't seem to understand the meaning of metaphysical, I will ask it as such. Your...

You have absolutely no reason to inject your name into a pronoun without it being written to you personally. This should go without saying. This is how language works. BTW, the Mormons also claim to know who the "other sheep" are in John 10:16. Would you like to guest who they are?