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  1. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Not sure the bible does say anything about it. That’s the point. It’s you who are injecting this kind of qualifier into this story where it does not exist. Where and how exactly did you come up with these qualifiers for Job under his circumstances anyway? We are already told what the test is...
  2. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    As previously stated several times, everything Job had, or said, or did was because of God. Job freely acknowledges that fact and gives God all the glory. Just because Job does not use the same verbiage as Moses does not automatically imply that Job does not believe the same as Moses. Plus they...
  3. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Exactly. In the end, this is precisely what happens when God appears. Job’s prayer to meet with God is answered, and his relationship with God is restored.
  4. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    How is that the standard for Job's test? And who decided it? The test was if Job lost his (1) his possessions, and (2) lost his health, that he would curse God. That's the test. By the end, Job does not curse God, and God restores him. That's the story in a nutshell. As the Apostle James...
  5. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    So you are moving the goal posts? Also, you are contradicting your own argument. You’ve insisted Job has said nothing right before chapter 42, and now you admit Job is declaring God’s greatness? Trying to follow your argument sometimes feels like walking on marbles.
  6. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Yeah, no, sorry…that’s not the story. One of the main ways we know this is not the story is because that is not what it says in chapters 1 and 2. When we read chapters 1 and 2 we are told how and why the hedge of protection was removed. The reason the hedge of protection was removed has...
  7. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    We are talking about Job. You are jumping to a different context, yet again and trying to force some extrapolation. Focus, please. Job does glorify God for everything, like Moses glorified God.
  8. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    You referred to Job’s words in chapter 29, but please read the beginning of chapter 29. Job 29:1-5 Moreover Job continued his parable, and said, Oh that I were as in months past, as in the days when God preserved me; When His candle shined upon my head, and when by His light I walked through...
  9. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    This is abhorrently wrong. Here are just two examples. Job 19:25 For I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that He shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: Job 28:23-28 God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof. For He looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth...
  10. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    You did not really answer the question. Can you explain what you believe the implication is for those to whom it not obvious? Can you give a plain answer instead of speaking in riddles? What verse are you referring to regarding threshing the potsherds in the mire? You did not provide a...
  11. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    You never explained what you believe the implication is exactly. Can you tell us? You referred to Job’s words in chapter 29, but please read the beginning of that chapter. Job 29:1-5 Moreover Job continued his parable, and said, Oh that I were as in months past, as in the days when God...
  12. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Wrong thread, brother. Try again.
  13. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Another grievous error here. The pattern I see in your interpretation is that you get hung up on certain words. This time it's with the word "accepted". The Hebrew word is Strong's #5375 "nasa" or "nasah" which can mean: NASB: lifted, lift, bear, take, carried, carry, took Once again...
  14. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    No worries! It looks very interesting nonetheless :)
  15. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Did you mean to post this in another thread? What is the relevance of this to the discussion on Job? Can you explain why you posted it here?
  16. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Can you please state what you believe the implication is exactly? So you are repeating the same point without any acknowledgement of the context. You had no response to the substance of the context pointed out to you. Is that because it proves your theory wrong? Yes, that seems to be the case...
  17. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Yes, of course. That's not what's in dispute. What I wrote was that you are confusing the subjects in chapter 41. God calls leviathan the king of the children of pride, not Job. Confusing the subjects was not in reference to your Job / Moses comparison. Regarding the Job / Moses comparison...
  18. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Read the beginning of chapter 41. Job 41:1-4 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee...
  19. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Please show us where it is written that the hedge around Job was taken away because of Job committing sin. Where does it say that? What “wild grapes” was Job bringing forth in his life to incur his ordeal? Where is this indicated in the text?
  20. christophernyc

    The book of Job

    Yes, totally agree. I should have added God allowed Job to suffer *with conditions*. The first time was satan could not touch his flesh, the second time was satan could not kill him. Absolutely. While Job’s connection with God was suspended, I wholeheartedly agree with you that God was watching...