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Let me be more specific: does the Lord speak of Job being righteous in a positive or negative way in Ezekiel 14? The fundamental difference in your point of view is that your claim is that Job is not "saved". But based on what is *in the text* we know Job already had a relationship established...

Job 41:30 is a detailed description of the flesh of the leviathan. That's it. The point is to express the terrifying existence of this creature. Side note, I do not totally disagree with your view of leviathan symbolizing satan or a serpent. I've seen parallels there, too, but will not discuss...

Not sure if you have shared any response regarding the mention of Job and the context in the epistle of James? Did I miss it? If not, is there a reason you haven't written one? The pertinency for this thread is that the OP asked specifically about other Scripture, and in the epistle by James we...

So if you are throwing out the rationalize of cause and effect, then I guess anyone could invent anything they want regarding this story. It's seems that's what you have done, inventing secret motives of Job's heart, and offering conjecture about ulterior designs by God as to why he allowed Job...

Do you understand the concept of cause and effect? In the context of Job, the *cause* would be if Job had sinned -- and the *effect* would be that he is punished. God says Job suffered "without cause" -- and yet he was being punished anyway *as if* he had sinned. That is the fundamental crux of...

Thank you for clarifying. So, as you have stated, you believe there was cause for Job to suffer. This blatantly opposes what the Scripture says. Again, have you read Job 2:3 where God plainly says Job's suffering is "without cause"? Are we reading different bibles? To clarify, this does not...

The comparison with the Psalms is unmistakable. Clearly it is the same thing and you did a very good job at setting these verses next to each other. I have noticed these similarities before, too, but have not written them out like you have so aptly done. Nice work! The punishments and...

Oh I see the parallel you are making with the woes poured out on Israel and the woes poured out on Job. However, did you notice why the woe was poured out on Israel? It was for their **iniquity**. Do you see that? Yes, the punishment is similar but the **context** is completely different. Job...

One of the strongest supports I have found in other parts of the Bible to help interpret the Book of Job is in the epistle written by the apostle James in the New Testament. One of the overarching themes of his letter aims at encouraging the believer to persevere during their trials...

Based on other posts of yours, you believe Job's 3 friends spoke what was right. Is that correct? So if that is your belief then how do you reconcile your point #2 with what is written in Job 42:7-8? 7 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz...

But do you view Job's ordeal as one that coincides with your own personal coming-to-faith salvation story? Also, can you please explain for us what you mean exactly by "accepted narrative". Can you please at least outline or paraphrase what you mean by the "accepted narrative" of the story of Job?

Would you say that your interpretation of the Book of Job is because you are comparing it to how you may have come to know the Lord? From what you have written, you see Job as a kind of prodigal son? A story of a lost person coming to faith for the first time? Is that your position?

I agree with so much of what you have laid out here in this post. Yes, in human terms, the suffering of Jesus, was unfair. It was "without cause". However, I would add that His suffering was obviously not without **purpose**. What the enemy does for evil, God uses for good. (See Joseph sold into...

Again, it appears if we approach this story and make it first and foremost about ourselves and our situations, then we are doing ourselves a tremendous disservice. The interpretation that follows this myopia will also suffer, too, it seems. Remember, the challenge posed by satan is that Job...

Does God accuse Job of self-righteousness? Can you share with us the verse that states that? In the Bible I read it says that God says the opposite about Job. Job made sure people knew about his "self righteousness"? Job is trying to defend himself against his friends **false** accusations...

Also, consider these OT Scriptures, for examples: 1. Psalm 2:7 "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." This psalm is attributed to being written by David. Do you think David was talking about himself? Cross reference this with...

Again, the postulate is that Job is a type and shadow -- not a literal figure of Christ Jesus. Job is not a christophany in that sense. Rather, the view suggests, like other OT figures already named, that Job reveals an aspect, a part, an element of the character of the One and only Messiah...

God affirms at the end of the book in chapter 42 that what Job has spoken about Him was **right**. Read it again. This is another example where the interpretation is based on things not in the text. Additionally, you have no verse where Job says his righteousness is "more" than God's. We all...

One of the conclusions I have come to about the Book of Job and trying to understand it is that it is **not** first and foremost about any one of us. I think there is an unhealthy proclivity to want to compare our own personal sufferings with those of Job. I do not think that means that we can't...

Job never said his righteousness was more than God's. That is an accusation leveled at Job from his accuser, Elihu. There is no verse you can point to where Job declares he is more righteous than God. In fact, you will find Job saying the opposite. Refer to chapter 9 for example. You cannot...