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Here is how I see Rev 17:10: Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. In its time Rome was governed by seven forms of Government 1. Kings 2. Consuls 3. Dictators 4. Decemvirs 5...

I have heard a few news reporters come to that conclusion, but I suppose it depends which way the go with it -they could by pass Christ and go for New Age stuff I suppose - but I am trying to be positive :)

Speaking of spiritual battles, I have noticed a lot of secular people are waking up to the idea that the only thing that makes sense of world events today is a spiritual battle - which is hopefully the start of a good thing - awareness wise ?

When Octavian defeated Mark Anthony and Cleopatra (after Julius Caesar death), he renamed himself Augustus ('the revered'), and declared himself Emperor, and established the Roman Empire. This was the end of the Roman republic and the start of the Roman Empire. Augustus Caesar 29BC - 14 AD...

The first coming at the commencement of the Legs of Iron: Greek rule still existed in Egypt under Cleopatra from 51 to 30 BC who was installed with the Authority of Julius Caesar, with the defeat of Mark Anthony and Cleopatra by Octavian after Julius Caesar death, the brass of Daniels Image...

Yet Jesus suffered and died outside the city gates - not in Jerusalem. Hebrews 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. John 19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called...

It was good to read this, because in recent times many have been saying that Paul is not an Apostle but a deceiver who contradicted the others. Thank you :)

Did you mean the historicist Interpretaion for Revelation 11 ? Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two...

They had to do this to put everything into the future.

I do not know these protestants that read Revelation as all about the Papacy - it has Islam in it also but mainly deals with Roman Empire in all its stages The harlot woman rides the beasts - as in the Papacy rides the beast empire - she is sustained by it - no idea where you get the papacy...

The pre-mill Amill thing is something I have looked into for a long time and I see contradictions in both and things that might be true in both, so I am wondering if it is something that is a mix of the two :) But we do not have a name for that - unless its OnTheFenceism :)

Yes It is called Historicism :) I agree - in the first sentence I typed I said I am not a futurist

I heard Pierce Morgan say it on his podcast - maybe I misunderstood what he said

Think of Historicism as Preterism on steroids - as in it goes further than 70AD :) The only view I can think of -besides outright denying the deity of Christ - that is dangerous is futurism/Zionism - they literally support and pray for war - thinking if they can bring on Armageddon it will...

Why I do not hold either the Futurist view or the Preterist view: The Reformation saw the Popes as the office of anti-Christ, supported by employing the "year-day" interpretation of Prophecy. This had to be countered. In 1585 a Spanish Jesuit called Francisco Ribera, commissioned by the...

I have always said I am not a Preterist and that I am a Historicist - you yourself commented on me saying that - so no idea where this changing/revealing view comes from :unsure:

Just want to add one more thing. Personally I do not care what date Revelation was written. So long as it was written before the events predicted and not after. Like they used to accuse the book of Daniel of being written after the events predicted took place, until they found an ancient copy of...

I ignore your posts because you have yet to post anything significant or anything that casts doubt on the Historic interpretation. I do wonder why you feel the need to spam me like some sort of Judas Virus though. Do you feel threatened by my beliefs ? If so I will expect more spam from you -...

And throw out all the secular Historical evidence also ? Nero was bloodthirsty he believed in killing and making entertainment out of his victims. Whereas Domitian was known for banishing political prisoner's and Christians that he called atheism. When he was assassinated September A. D. 96...

That AI needs sacking - that is not the Historic view 0 maybe it is the SDA church view but it is not the Historic view . Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. In its time Rome...