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You may tell people Christ died for His Sheep Jn 10, or His Church Eph 5:25 but for every single individual, you or myself have no right to tell anyone that.

Its the Truth, everyone God didnt chose for Salvation, and its silly to suppose so.

No you have no right to tell anyone Christ died for them, they may not be one of His Sheep. Then you have lied to them.

Your example is bogus, since the ones who are saved, were dead , already drowned to death. They cant participate in their conversion until after they have been made alive.

You or I havent a right to tell any individual that Christ died for them. Wonder if they be not of His Lost Sheep, and didnt die for them ? Then you lied to them and become a false witness. Now you can tell a person that Christ died for His Sheep, or even that He died for sinners, but we dont...

False.

Yes believing is a work, now its either mans work, or Gods work of regenerating grace. Take your pick !

Since you make faith/believing actions performed by the unregenerate resulting in their eternal salvation, thats salvation by works, by reward, for performing your action. Thats totally 100% against Grace.

No matter how you contend against it, God didnt chose everyone for Salvation.

I havent denied anything, thats an false accusation friend.

grandpa Exactly, well stated

You or I have no right to tell anyone Christ died for them. Where did any of the Apostles in the book of Acts tell anyone Christ died for them ? Thats an invention of man.

Sorry, God didnt chose everyone for Salvation.

The word us is the elect, chosen in Christ before the foundation.

fg2 Yes you should never tell an individual Christ died for them, because He may not have if they weren't one of His Sheep Jn 10. Show us in the book of Acts where we see the most evangelism by the Apostles and Preachers, where they told any individual that Christ died for them. You and I...

fg2 Thats truth, God didnt choose everyone for Salvation, some He chose to be recipients of His wrath and destruction, and that in Justice. They are called vessels of wrath Rom 9:21-22 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto...

fg2 The elect werent believers when first elected/chosen since it occured to them in Christ before the foundation of the world. Eph 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Even Paul was an...

fg2 Oh no, you are saying faith/believing which is involved in Salvation is a activity of the flesh, of the unregenerate person A response, believing, is an act of the mind and the heart. Paul is describing a work of the heart here Rom 10:9 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the...

awelight Yes Rom 10:10 is speaking about the New Heart from regeneration, God in the New Covenant gives us a new haert to believe Ezk 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an...

Oh no, they believed because of Grace Acts 18:27 27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace: