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So the Corinthian Christians still had some things to learn at this point. Goes to show, when we believe, there is a learning and growing process for maturing spiritually.

Yeah I know Paul wrote to the believers in Corinth. I'm getting tired but I'm still here.

What verse is that??

Yeah we established that. I'm losing it here.

1 cor 3:1 King James Bible And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I don't know if carnal means totally without belief or what. Was there a scripture that says that? I know, but the principle still applied. He suffered for...

Way off topic. It's easy enough to accuse someone of taking scriptures out of context or not knowing the Bible, but that's just an accusation with no suggestion to any alternative idea.

See post #55. A carnal man is a fleshly, worldly, still controlled by your sinful nature, not yet spiritual man. Pharaoh was an unbeliever. He didn't accept the things of the spirit. And he had like...10 chances.

I guess he can in the future if the natural man later becomes a spiritual man if that's what you mean.

Good discussion. Did we get everything?

Did the OP come back yet? I have a comment, but it's crazy. I want to see what she says first.

1 Cor 2:14 English Standard Version The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. Holman Christian Standard Bible But the unbeliever does not welcome what comes from...

We've established that a natural man is an unbeliever who doesn't have the spirit. See post #42.

All of the above. A natural man has human wisdom and a spiritual man has divine revelation.

Oh.... 1 Cor 3:3 New American Standard Bible for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men? New King James Version for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are...

I guess you're talking about: 1 Cor 1:11 New American Standard Bible For I have been informed concerning you, my brethren, by Chloe's people, that there are quarrels among you. New King James Version For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that...

Actually that verse is pretty straight forward. A non-spiritual person doesn't accept spiritual things.

Is the word "carnal" actually in the verse? What verse are we on?

We see from this pandemic there will be a time when we won't be able to rely on the CDC, or the government, or the news, the unemployment line will be overwhelmed, hospitals will be overwhelmed, food supplies will shut down, mail will stop, etc. We won't be able to rely on anything except God...

Ok, but let's not be too critical. Just love and pray.

I just saw your other threads about this stuff. I think I touched on all of it here. Let me know.